BPFK Section: Numeric Tense

cmavo: re'u (ROI)

Proposed Definition

Ordinal tense. Converts a number to an objectively quantified ordinal tense interval modifier, indicating that the event takes place for the n-th time. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval in which the repetitions occur.

Proposed Tag

fi'o jai ze'a krefu be fi li number

See Also

  • {roi}
  • {krefu}

Proposed Keywords

  • for the nth time.

Usage Examples

.i mi re re'u troci lo ka co'a sipna
For the second time, I try to fall asleep.

.a'o do pu zi ro re'u darxi lo mensi be do
I hope this was the last time you hit your sister.

mi pa re'u lo mi nunji'e cu prane lo ka gleki
For the first time in my life I am perfectly happy.

Notes

  • http://nuzban.wiw.org/archive/9612/msg00006.html
    • Summary: re'u is semantically related to the ZAhO series, in that it specifies a phase of the event. (This discussion is suggestive of calling re'u an aspect, and not a tense.)
  • re'u (Lojban wiki page)
    • Summary: za'u re'u means "not for the first time", so it could be used for some senses of "again".

Issues


cmavo: roi (ROI)

Proposed Definition

Quantified tense. Converts a number to an objectively quantified tense interval modifier, indicating that the event takes place n times. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval in which the repetitions occur.

Proposed Tag

ca number da poi ke'a cabna sumti // fi'o jai ze'a rapli be li number

See Also

  • {re'u}
  • {rapli}

Proposed Keywords

  • times
  • n times

Usage Examples

mi so'i roi citka lo xarju rectu
I eat pork many times.

mi no roi tcidu fi lo nuzykarni
I never read newspapers.

mi curmi lo nu do pilno lo skami pa roi ro zeldei
I allow you to use the computer once each Sunday.

Notes

  • http://www.lojban.org/lists/jboske/msg00218.html
    • Summary: ROI is a sumti tcita, too. The sumti specifies which time interval the repetitions occur.
    • Here, Robin agrees.

Issues

General Section Issues

By convention, tagged sumti without quantification (the new definition of lo dispenses with the notion of implicit quantification) are taken to refer to single instances. E.g. mu roi lo cacra is taken to mean "five times per hour".

The meaning of tagged sumti with ROI, previously undescribed, has been explicitly laid out.

mi djica lo panre be zo si'e poi srana lo temci

.i zo roi cu te kancu gi'e nai parbi .i mi djica lo nu cusku le
parbi da poi gasnu vau le srana temci

Poll

BPFK poll: Numeric Tense ROI
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Created by arj. Last Modification: Thursday 21 of August, 2014 10:15:43 GMT by Ilmen.