cultural fu'ivla

(Don't like cultural gismu? Want to junk all of them? First you'll need to have replacements available for use.)

See cultural replacement lujvo, another approach to cultural fu'ivla and also ISO generated cultural fu'ivla.

Geographic

glico etym. lojban approximation CCV'VCV Notes
African afrkia fra'ika
Afro-Eurasian
American amrkia mre'ika
Antarctican dzi'ipo
Australian sra'alo
Asian xa'azdo
Eurasian
European erpa xre'opa, vre'opa
North American bernmre'ika
South American nanrmre'ika by the syllable-switching trick, Quechua --> tce'uka?


Political/Ethnicity/Language (please specify)

glico type etym. lojban approximation CCV'VCV Notes
Afghan poli,lang
Afro-Asiatic
Arabic ethn,lang
Albanian
Algerian djazari
Altaic
American Samoa Amerika Sāmoa steito asmo'a
Andalusian
Andorran
Angolan
Anglophone lang
Argentinian arxentina xre'ina
Armenian հայերեն (hɑjɛˈɾɛn) xa'erne
Aromanian
Aruban
Assyrian
Australian kulnraustralia, straina sraila
Austrian
Austronesian
Azeri Азәрбајҹан azrbaidjna
Bahamian
Bahraini
Balochi
Bangladeshi বাংলা (ˈbaŋla) bangla'e
Bantu
Barbadian
Basque Euskadi eskladi, skalduna country
Basque Euskara eskra language
Bavarian (German) Bayern (ˈbaɪ.ɐn) bai'arno
Belarusian беларуская blarska'a
Belgian
Belizean
Bengali Bangla bengali
Berber
Boer
Bosnian
Brazilian Brasil bra'ila
Breton bre'one
British poli bri'ito
British Virgin Islands bri'ito plurvardjino
Bulgarian
Burkinabe
Burundian
Cajun
Cambodian
Cameroonian
Canadian cka'ada It seems ka'anda doesn't fit the rafsi fu'ivla form.
Catalan
Cape Verdean
Chadian
Chilean tci'ile
Chinese ethn 中华/zhōnghuá djonxua djo'uxa Why jungo makes no sense.
Chinese (PRC) poli 中国/zhōngguó djonguo djo'ugo gugrjunguo ? see above
Chinese (Han) ethn 汉族 hànzú xandzu xna'azu
Chuvash Чӑвашла (tɕəʋaʂˈla) tcufcla
Colombian
Comorian
Conglolese
Corsican
Croatian hrvatski (xř̩ʋaːtski) xraftski
Cuban
Cypriot
Czech čeština (ˈt͡ʃɛʃcɪna) tcectsina
Dane
Dominican
Dravidian dravida
Netherlander/Dutch Nederland enderla
Netherlands Antilles Nederlandse Antillen enderla antile
East Timorese
Ecuadorian
Egyptian smi'iro
Emirati
English ? gli'ico
Eritrean
Erzya эрзянь erzia
Esperanto lang,cult Esperanto espranto spe'ato
Estonian eesti (ˈeːsti) esti ste'iti, sto'ina
Ethiopian
Evenki Эвэнки evneki
Finn
Finnic
Finnish tsu'omi
Finno-Ugric
Fijian
Filipino
French fra'ase
Georgian
German jdoico
Germanic
Ghanaian
Gibraltar
Greek poli,lang,ethn kulnrxelada
Greenlandic Kalaallisut klalsitu
Grenadian
Guatemalan
Guianese
Guinean
Guinea-Bissau
Guyanese
Haida
Haitian
Hebrew
Hindi indi
Hispanic spi'ani
Honduran
Hongkonger xonkno
Hungarian Magyar jma'aro
Hutus
Icelander
Igbo
Inari Sami anarâškielâ anraci
Indian
Indo-Aryan
Indo-European
Indonesian
Inuit
Inuktitut inktitu
Iranian
Iraqi xri'aki
Irish Ireland (ˈaɾlənd), Éire (ˈeːɾʲə) erlando
Israeli sra'eli
Italian Italia iltalia
Ivoirian
Jamaican
Japanese Nihon sni'ono
Javanese
Jordanian Al-Urdun lurduno
Karen
Kazakh
Kenyan
Klingon kli'iga
Korean
Kosovo Albanian
Kurd
Kurdish
Kuwaiti
Lao
Latin Latīna (laˈtiːna) kulnrlatina, la'itna, latnia
Latvian latviešu latfiecu
Lebanese
Liberian
Libyan
Liechtensteiner
Limbu Yakthung iaktu
Lithuanian lietuvių iltuviu
Livonian Līvõ ilvo
Lojbanic jbo'anu This one is ugly.Aside from the debate about whether "Lojbanic" should be a fu'ivla at all, there's really no good way to cram any form of logji bangu into CCVVCV. However, here's an attempt. jbo'anu rab.spir Maybe jbauboAh ha, I get it - rearranging the vowels of jbobau.
Luxembourger
Macedonian
Malawian
Malaysian mle'eja
Malay-Indonesian
Malian
Maltese
Manchu mantcu'u
Mandarin lang Pǔtōnghuà putnxua tno'uxa
Manx
Maori
Mauritian
Mayan
Mexican sme'iko
Moldovan
Mongolian
Moroccan gri'iba
Montenegrin
Namibian
Native American
Nepalese
New Zealander
Nicaraguan
Nigerian
Nigerien
Niger-Congo
Northern Sami Davvisámegiella dafsamegiela
Norwegian sno'ogo I'm Swedish so feel free to replace if you come up with something better
Ossetic Ирон irno
Pakistani
Palauan
Palestinian
Panamanian
Papua New Guinean
Paraguayan
Persian Farsi fa'arsi
Peruvian
Piedmont (Italian) Piemonte pienmote
Polish polski polski plo'oka
Polynesian plo'ini forget the autonym, the gismu list manages with polno
Portuguese pro'uge
Puerto Rican prueto
Punjabi
Quebecer
Quechua ('χetʃ.wa) xetcua
Reunionnai
Roma
Romanian
Russian русский (ˈruskʲɪj) kulnlrosia sro'isa
Rwandan
Salvandoran
Sami
Samoyedic
Sanskrit संस्कृता saṃskṛtā samskrta
Sao Tome and Principe
Sardinian
Saudi
Semitic
Senegalese
Serb Srpski (ˈsr̩pskiː) serpski
Scot sco'oto
Sicilian
Sierra Leonean
Silesian
Singaporean
Slavic slo'ovo
Slovak slovenčina slovntcina
Slovene slovenščina slovnctcina
Somali
South African
Soviet kulnrsovietskii Seems wrong for me. softo does 'not' mean Soviet - read the full definition, not just the keyword! mi'e kir)
Spanish spa'ano
Sri Lankan
Sudanese
Swedish sfe'ero
Swiss
Syrian
Syriac
Tai
Taiwanese
Tamil
Tanzanian
Tatar
Thai
Tibetan
Tlapanec Meph'aa
Tlingit Lingít (ɬɪŋkɪ́t) linkti
Tobagonian
Trinidadian
Tsez цезйас tseiza
Tungusic
Turkic
Turkish Türkçe (ˈt̪yɾktʃe) turktce
Tutsi
Tuvaluan
Udmurt удмурт udmurtu
Ugandan
Ugric
Uralic
Ukrainian украї́нська (ukrɑˈjinʲsʲkɑ) krainska
Urdu urdu
Uruguayan
UK unke, kingdo
U.S. steito I suggest steito for U.S. Keep in mind that Central Americans call themselves americano.) Not only Central Americans. I call myself americano as well. --mi'e xorxes
Uzbek Ўзбекча zbektca
Venezuelan
Vietnamese zvi'ena I'm not sure if {ie} sounds like "iệt", so I use y'ybu here. I prefer {zv} over {jv} in ease of pronouncing — mi'e xydyx
Warlpiri uarlpiri
Welsh Cymru (ˈkəmrɨ) ekmru, uelcu ckueru
Yemeni
Zambian
Zimbabwean
Zulu

Philosophy/Religion

glico etym. lojban approximation CCV'VCV Notes
Aristotelian Aristoteles arstotele
Buddhist jbu'udo
Cartesian Descartes dekrto
Christian kulnrxristiano xraiso
Confucian Kǒng zǐ kongzi
Hobbesian xo'obzu
Islamic sla'ami
Jehovist
Jewish dju'icy
Kantian Kant aknto kna'ati
Marxian Marx marksu mra'asi
Platonistic Platon pla'ato
Taoist 道教/dàojiào daudjiau dji'ado, djo'ixo, dja'uda



Discussion

This whole things seems rather a waste of effort to me. Attempting to come up with a word for each and every country, race, culture, language, etc. that exist is an over-ambitious and ultimately fruitless task. Instead of trying to come up with a "cultural" word for everything, we should use cultural words where the specific culture/language/country/etc. is a place-tag to be filled be a cmene or cmevla.

kulnr- words are all well and good, but the idea of cultural fu'ivla as proposed in the book is to use the CCVVCV form so that corresponding CCVVC rafsi can be formed. Many lujvo already involve cultural rafsi (the 3-letter kind), so eliminating cultural rafsi altogether would be damaging to the language. --rab.spir

  • In that case, Rob, Classic Wiki Conflict Resolution: I suggest kunlr- words, you suggest CCVVCV words, they both go on the Marketplace Of Ideas (and hopefully neither wins and the baseline is preserved! Mwahahah :-) (Btw, as another meta-point: since gli'ico is glico with an extra vowel, it doesn't address the 'recognisability' objection.) — nitcion
    • I actually don't have a problem with cultural gismu - however, if they are going to become taboo, I'd at least like to have rafsi fu'ivla to fall back on. I realize that CCVVCV will be just as unrecognizable as CCVCV or CVCCV. Besides, this is the one place where the baseline bends! The book states that rafsi fu'ivla might be used, or they might not. I think we might as well play with it and see what happens.
    • and if neither wins, what do we do for, say, taiwanese culture?


Are we agreed that the place should form the basis of cultural fu'ivla in general (and where available - counterexample, Roma/Gypsies), rather than the nationality? That's what has been assumed in le tutra pe le terdi. (And please God, not more "thousand flowers".) Is it kulnlrosia, or kulnlruskii? nitcion

kulnlruskii - russian culture. tutrlrosia - Russia. Or use the gismu for the source languages of lojban...

PS: Love to see you come up with an autonym for Polynesian...
mononesian?

  • Not antonym, but autonym: self-designation


The above is a list of all the cultures that Lojban currently has gismu for, plus a couple of others. If there is another culture you'd like the word for, then by all means, add it.

We have a gismu for Antarctica? Sure thing. dzipo (I understand it's from cadzu cipni, land of the walking birds (i.e. penguins) It even has two short rafsi: -zip- and -zi'o-.


Created by livais. Last Modification: Tuesday 26 of June, 2012 20:12:30 GMT by eyeonus.