BPFK Section: Place Structure cmavo

Proposed Definitions And Examples














General Section Notes

On fa, fe, fi, fo and fu

In combination with xi

Tagging one of fa, fe, fi, fo or fu with xi and a number turns the FA into "tag the nth sumti place".

Resume counting, skipping places

  • Normally, sumti places start with either 1, or 2 (if the first sumti comes after the selbri) and after each sumti, the next place is filled. If the number of places of the selbri is reached, all the next places have an implicit do'e tag. danr: this do'e part is not in the CLL, is it?
  • danr: Where does the apple end up in {mi fi do dunda lo plise}?
  • When a sumti place is already filled (for instance, if a FA was used to jump back), that place is 'skipped'
  • fai will not affect the numbering of places around it.
  • Places continue from where the tag left off (i.e. fu ko'a ko'e - fills x5 and x6 respectively).


Using a place multiple times

  • Assigning two sumti to the same place directly is like connecting the two sumti with 'e' and putting the result in that place.
    • I thought it was {ju'e(external link)}, not {.e(external link)}? --aionys


  • da citka de di ~= fa da cikta fe de do'e di (count from one, cikta only has x1 and x2)
  • klama de ~= klama fe de (count from two, as the first sumti comes after the selbri)
  • klama de fa da di ~= klama fe de fa da fi di (do not "overwrite" the second place. skip to the third instead)
  • mi klama fa do ~= fa mi e do klama (assigning two sumti to the same place connects them together)
  • mi klama fa xi mu da ~= mi klama fu da (using xi to turn fa into "tag 5th sumti" (which is the same as fu))
  • mi klama fu lo karce da ~= mi klama fu lo karce do'e da




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