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rlpowell posts: 14214

On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 10:55:37AM -0800, wikidiscuss@lojban.org
wrote:
> Re: Magic Words
>
> Some more comments.
>
> > ZO quotes the following word, no matter what it is, except Y.
> > Words quoted with ZO lose their grammatical functions.
>
> This doesn't mention {zo zo da} and {zoi zo da ........ zo de}.
>
> If we can't assume left-to-right precedence,

Do you mean top-to-bottom?

> and {zo} wins over everything else, then in those cases {da} and
> {de} would be quoted by {zo}.

That's true in the second case, but not the first.

> > FAhO terminates the word or text stream unequivocably, unless
> > quoted with ZO.
>
> Even within {lo'u ... le'u}?

Err, no. Sorry. Nor zoi, for that matter.

> > LEhU is ungrammatical except at the end of a LOhU quotation and
> > after ZO.
>
> Is {le'u si} ungrammatical?

Obviously not, I should think.

> > ZOI cmavo use the following word as a delimiting word, no matter
> > what it is, execept Y (which is ignored); and SI, SA and SU
> > (which erase it).
>
> Can it use ZO, FAhO, LEhU?

I don't see why not. As mentioned in another mail, zoi needs to be
moved higher up.

> > BU makes the preceding word into a lerfu word, except for ZO,
> > ZEI and LOhU (which quote it), ZOI (which uses it as a
> > delimiter); LEhU (which would result in bizarrely re-opening the
> > LOhU...LEhU, and hence is an error); SI, SA and SU (it affects
> > whatever is to the left after the erasing is done; if nothing is
> > left an error results); BAhE (which it skips); BU (which would
> > lead to grouping issues, and hence is an error to attempt); and
> > FAhO (after which anything, including BU, is ignored).
>
> What about {zo da bu} and {da zei de bu}?

Handled by the meta-rules; both are errors.

-Robin

 


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