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rlpowell posts: 14214

On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 09:23:39PM -0500, Mark E. Shoulson wrote:
> From the page:
>
> >*ZO* binds with the following word. The combination is considered
> >a single word of the pseudo selma'o /any-word/, except for SA
> >matching purposes, where it retains the selma'o ZO.
>
> Um, isn't the pseudo-selma'o really KOhA?

That's not very pseudo, is it?

> Grammatically the quoted word functions as a sumti.

True, but so do many other things.

> It's a single "any-word" wrt other Magic Word processing, but its
> grammar is that of KOhA. Ditto uses of "any-string" and such later
> in the document. Does this matter?

I don't think so, but I will clarify it.

> Also from the page:
>
> da zei fa'o Lujvo of da and fa'o
>
>
> Since you avoid xorxes' terminology of words "turning off" the
> magic of other words, it isn't clear here that this {fa'o} doesn't
> terminate the text-stream. Or that {da zei zei} doesn't suck up
> another following word, but is just a brivla. You say that they
> are processed RTL, but I think you need to be clearer about when
> these magic words lose their magic.

Umm, zei binds with both words and turns the whole thing into a
brivla. zei gets there first (LTR processing). Not sure how that's
unclear. Can you give an idea of what you'd like to see added?

> wikidiscuss@lojban.org, incarnated as Robin, wrote:
>
> >Re: Magic Words Just added some special SA handling, which I
> >don't *think* introduces any bugs, but I need to play with it
> >some more. As a side effect, one can now add on to a
> >lo'u...le'u, although still not zoi.
>
> Probably okay.

I dropped it, though, after xorxes pointed out that "joi lo'u" only
costs one more syllable, and decreases complexity greatly.

> >I still don't know what fa'o means. Does fa'o si fo'a work, and
> >if so, what's the point of having fa'o, exactly?
>
> IMO, a non-quoted (non-disabled) fa'o is an end-of-file. {fa'o si
> fo'a}, at best, begins a new text with {si fo'a}, which is allowed
> by your rules. A helpful speaker would, of course, let you get
> away with it.

Agreed on all points.

-Robin

 


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