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BPFK Section: gadri

wikidiscuss@lojban.org wrote:

>Re: BPFK Section: gadri
>BTW, xod says that "lo broda poi brode" == "le broda" (with loss of information, of course).
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>Is that always true, or is it specific to your scheme? Regardless, it seems to be true and I'd appreciate it if you mentioned it somewhere.
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>In case it isn't obvious, conversion formula give me
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Wmake me very happy.

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>-Robin
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I've found a dyad of ideas which approximate *Intension* and

  • Extension*, even if the correlation is not perfect. Intension is

similar to *selkaicfa*; la'e-like, beginning with a set of qualities,
one discusses the items, if any, that qualify. Extension is similar to

  • kaicfa*; lu'e-like, beginning with an object in mind, one discusses its

qualities in order to describe it. (When I use "any" in English, I am
experiencing selkaicfa; I have a requirement in mind, and I am referring
to whatever items fit the bill. However, I also can use "any" to express
a lack of preference among the members of a set, all of whose members
might be known specifically to me: "Hit this button with any of your
fingers.")

Under Jorge's proposal before the BF, lo = selkaicfa, le = kaicfa. With
selkaicfa, the speaker has given an explicit description of the required
qualities, and the sumti refers to anything that matches. In kaicfa, the
speaker has given only a partial list of the qualities, in order to aid
the listener in understanding.

So lo poi isn't le.

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