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BPFK Section: gadri


Robin Lee Powell:
> From Le Petit Prince 2:

:-)

> mi krefu finti seva'u py pa lo re po'o pixra poi mi kakne

Ok, that's one example. It doesn't make me change my mind, though.

> Do you wish me to find more?

If it's not too much trouble, it would be great.

> > > We already have other ways of saying "three groups of five"; "ci lo
> > > mumei broda" does the right thing, does it not?
> >
> > It's a tanru. It gets the message across, but we want to have more
> > precise ways of talking too.
>
> Are there none?

Sure, but much wordier.
We'd also lose the quantification over fractions {PA lo piPA broda}.

> The regularity is in usage. The outer quantifier works the same for
> *all* gadri *except* lo.

  • all* is le and la, right?

It certainly doesn't work like that for loi, lei, lai, lo'i, le'i,
la'i, lo'e and le'e.

> Quite frankly, I'd rather that all quantifiers couted groups, but that
> would break past usage much more badly.

If you have more than one group in mind, you can still manage with {le}:

le ci lo mu broda
The three five-brodas

{le} points to a single thing you have in mind (in that example the
single thing is the group of three five-brodas). You can quantify
over members of the thing, but not over instances.

{lo} points to the predicate that must be satsfied. The natural thing
to quantify over are the things that satisfy the predicate, not the
members of a group that satisfies the predicate.

mu'o mi'e xorxes





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