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> > Of course you can: point with your finger about 45 degrees downwards
> > and make a circular motion.
>
> That describes a circle at my feet. It does not point at everything in
> the immediate area.

"Pointing" does not just mean "follow a straight line from the tip
of my finger and whatever the line impinges upon that's the pointed
at thing". There are many ways of pointing. You can point with a
gesture of your head, for example, you can point just with your eyes,
etc. It's very culturally dependent, pointing with your finger can
be considered rude in some cultures.

> > But you don't have to take "pointing" so literally in any case.
>
> Why the bloody hell not? If I didn't want to take things literally, I
> wouldn't be studying Lojban!

People without hands or with their hands otherwise occupied can
still use ti, ta, tu.

> However, you do bring up a possible solution, which is to define ti, ta
> and tu as "something near/medium/far from the speaker, possibly pointed
> at". I think that's what the Founders wanted anyways, although they can
> speak for themselves.

Actually it's more like:

ti something near the speaker
ta something near the audience
tu something far from both speaker and audience

BTW, on possible way of converting a tag into a sumti is
{lo tag du}as in {lo vi du}.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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