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> > With a simple sumti like ko'a, yes. For a sumti like {le broda ku}
> > there are three points where it can be atatched: between {le} and
> > {broda}, between {broda} and {ku}, or after {ku}. The meanings can be
> > different in some cases.
>
> Oh FFS. Is that true with poi and voi too? If so, is it also true with
> pe, ne, po, and so on?

Yes.

> Reference for this, please?

I think CLL mentions it.

{ci lo ro broda noi brode ku noi brodi cu brodo}

says of all brodas that they are brode, but only of the three brodas that
brodo that they are brodi.

> > > xu naku me le cnano pe le tai tcima ne vi do
> > > ''Is it not the case that those among the norm which is associated
> > > with the form of the weather, which is near you?''
> > > Isn't it true that the weather near you is normal?
> >
> > Does it really say that?
>
> That's how I read it. Do you disagree?

I think "Don't you normally have such weather?" or something,
but I don't really know. {le tai tcima} is definitely "such
weather", probably referring to some kind of weather being talked
about, but I don't really understand how the other two sumti fit.
{le tai tcima ne vi do" is "such weather of yours". So:
"Is it not the normal of such weather of yours?" Maybe it made
sense in context.

> > This does not make much sense, since both sumti pick out exactly the
> > same things.
>
> Nope. John convinced me that no'u is definately not restrictive; you
> can have that argument with him if you like.

I agree it is not restrictive. That doesn't mean that the two sumti
don't have the same referents. I don't think the point you repeat about
identification has anything to do with restrictiveness.

> The example that convinced me was:
>
> ro da no'u la jeeg cu cevni
>
> ro da po'u la jeeg cu cevni

The first one says that Jeeg is/are the only god(s), the second
one allows for there being other gods. So?

> > For some sumti, you can apply three relative clauses without using
> > zi'e.
>
> Example, please.

lo noi broda ku'o brode noi brodi ku noi brodo cu brodu

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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