BPFK Section: Gradiated Numbers Posted by pycyn on Fri 06 of Aug, 2004 23:44 GMT posts: 2388 Use this thread to discuss the BPFK Section: Gradiated Numbers page.
Posted by pycyn on Fri 06 of Aug, 2004 23:49 GMT posts: 2388 The notion of a significant number is a brilliant addition. But "most" ought to be "more than half" (and perhaps in a different section — with "all of" and "some of," say), not just "all but several." These numbers are significantly more subjective than the "subjective" ones. Note that most of these are class-relative: there aren't many tigers but many of the ones there are are in zoos. A (weak) argument for restricted quantification.
Posted by xorxes on Sat 07 of Aug, 2004 03:06 GMT posts: 1912 pc: > The notion of a significant number is a brilliant addition. But "most" ought > to be "more than half" (and perhaps in a different section — with "all of" > and "some of," say), not just "all but several." But we can't yank {so'e} out of the so'V series just like that. We can give {so'e} the meaning it inherits as part of the gradiated series and when we really mean literally "most" we can use {za'upimu}, which is not that much longer, and it makes it clear what is meant. > These numbers are significantly more subjective than the "subjective" ones. > Note that most of these are class-relative: For example, do you really mean "most" literally there, or will {so'e} as part of the so'V gradation do? I don't think you went to the trouble of counting those that are class relative and compare with the total. And even if you did, your purpose was probably not to say that more than half are class-relative, was it? > there aren't many tigers but many > of the ones there are are in zoos. A (weak) argument for restricted > quantification. Yes, I think the fact that they are defined as a gradation between no and ro makes them of the proportional sort of quantifiers. mu'o mi'e xorxes __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail