Lojban In General

Posted by Minimiscience on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:57 GMT posts: 3588

de'i li 03 pi'e 12 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra.
> I found this just now: http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=588 in which the
> blogger mentions "subliminal learning lojban" here:
> ...
> What is this thing? Is this in any way associated with LLG or anything
> official?
.skamyxatra

This is what is known as a "scam." If you click the "Brainwave Mind Voyages"
link, you'll see that the sellers appear to have grabbed a bunch of random
subjects and slapped them onto FSM only knows what, combined with utter abuse
of New Age-sounding scientific vocabulary to rope in their key demographic:
idiots. Buying this just to see what it is (and I will bet you 10,000 to 1
that it doesn't work) will not be worth your while.

Also, some advice for the next couple of decades: If it has the word "quantum"
in it and it is not a physics textbook or course from a respectable university,
keep it away from your money.

mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.

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Posted by lukebergen on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:57 GMT posts: 493

I was kind of wondering if that was the case.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Minimiscience <minimiscience@gmail.com>wrote:

> de'i li 03 pi'e 12 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi
> skamyxatra.
> > I found this just now: http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=588 in which
> the
> > blogger mentions "subliminal learning lojban" here:
> > ...
> > What is this thing? Is this in any way associated with LLG or anything
> > official?
> .skamyxatra
>
> This is what is known as a "scam." If you click the "Brainwave Mind
> Voyages"
> link, you'll see that the sellers appear to have grabbed a bunch of random
> subjects and slapped them onto FSM only knows what, combined with utter
> abuse
> of New Age-sounding scientific vocabulary to rope in their key demographic:
> idiots. Buying this just to see what it is (and I will bet you 10,000 to 1
> that it doesn't work) will not be worth your while.
>
> Also, some advice for the next couple of decades: If it has the word
> "quantum"
> in it and it is not a physics textbook or course from a respectable
> university,
> keep it away from your money.
>
> mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.
>
> --
> do ta'e pilno le va valsi .i mi na jinvi lodu'u ri valsi da poi do jinvi
> lodu'u
> ri valsi ke'a
>
>
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> you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.
>
>

Definitely snake oil - there are similar ad listings on eBay; I sent a
message to each seller asking for a contact number so I could call and
hear for myself just how good their Lojban was before I'd consider
placing an order. Funnily enough I received no reply

Paul
(kozmikreis)

Luke Bergen wrote:
> I was kind of wondering if that was the case.
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Minimiscience <minimiscience@gmail.com
> <mailto:minimiscience@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> de'i li 03 pi'e 12 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi
> skamyxatra.
> > I found this just now: http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=588 in
> which the
> > blogger mentions "subliminal learning lojban" here:
> > ...
> > What is this thing? Is this in any way associated with LLG or
> anything
> > official?
> .skamyxatra
>
> This is what is known as a "scam." If you click the "Brainwave
> Mind Voyages"
> link, you'll see that the sellers appear to have grabbed a bunch
> of random
> subjects and slapped them onto FSM only knows what, combined with
> utter abuse
> of New Age-sounding scientific vocabulary to rope in their key
> demographic:
> idiots. Buying this just to see what it is (and I will bet you
> 10,000 to 1
> that it doesn't work) will not be worth your while.
>
> Also, some advice for the next couple of decades: If it has the
> word "quantum"
> in it and it is not a physics textbook or course from a
> respectable university,
> keep it away from your money.
>
> mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.
>
> --
> do ta'e pilno le va valsi .i mi na jinvi lodu'u ri valsi da poi do
> jinvi lodu'u
> ri valsi ke'a
>
>
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> <mailto:secretary@lojban.org> for help.
>
>

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Posted by lukebergen on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:57 GMT posts: 493

Well the funny thing is, the link in my first message has samples of the
mp3s that you get and the one is just 10 minutes of waves at the ocean, the
second one "uses hypersonic tones" so..... blank nothing.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM, kozmikreis <kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk> wrote:

> Definitely snake oil - there are similar ad listings on eBay; I sent a
> message to each seller asking for a contact number so I could call and hear
> for myself just how good their Lojban was before I'd consider placing an
> order. Funnily enough I received no reply
>
> Paul
> (kozmikreis)
>
>
>
> Luke Bergen wrote:
>
>> I was kind of wondering if that was the case.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Minimiscience <minimiscience@gmail.com<mailto:
>> minimiscience@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> de'i li 03 pi'e 12 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi
>> skamyxatra.
>> > I found this just now: http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=588 in
>> which the
>> > blogger mentions "subliminal learning lojban" here:
>> > ...
>> > What is this thing? Is this in any way associated with LLG or
>> anything
>> > official?
>> .skamyxatra
>>
>> This is what is known as a "scam." If you click the "Brainwave
>> Mind Voyages"
>> link, you'll see that the sellers appear to have grabbed a bunch
>> of random
>> subjects and slapped them onto FSM only knows what, combined with
>> utter abuse
>> of New Age-sounding scientific vocabulary to rope in their key
>> demographic:
>> idiots. Buying this just to see what it is (and I will bet you
>> 10,000 to 1
>> that it doesn't work) will not be worth your while.
>>
>> Also, some advice for the next couple of decades: If it has the
>> word "quantum"
>> in it and it is not a physics textbook or course from a
>> respectable university,
>> keep it away from your money.
>>
>> mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.
>>
>> --
>> do ta'e pilno le va valsi .i mi na jinvi lodu'u ri valsi da poi do
>> jinvi lodu'u
>> ri valsi ke'a
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to
>> lojban-list-request@lojban.org <mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org>
>>
>> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to
>> http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if
>> you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org
>> <mailto:secretary@lojban.org> for help.
>>
>>
>>
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>
>

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well the funny thing is, the link in my first message has samples of the
> mp3s that you get and the one is just 10 minutes of waves at the ocean, the
> second one "uses hypersonic tones" so..... blank nothing.

You probably can't tell the difference between any of these mp3s:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&field-keywords=Subliminal+Learn

but of course that's why they are *subliminal*. It would be
interesting to know their sales figures for each language.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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