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ummmm, what?

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable to
> move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture?
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> Pierre
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> lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko
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Is the solution Lojban or English?

Daniel

2009/12/4 Dániel Arató <exitconsole@gmail.com>:
> Is the solution Lojban or English?

I suspect this is rather like his question years ago of "how many
locks contain a weasel" - it's an English question with an English
answer, but you can't answer it without reference to Lojban.

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In what way does the question/answer of "how many locks contain a
weasel"/"????" require referencing lojban? Or am I missing a pun or
something?

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Craig Daniel <craigbdaniel@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/12/4 Dániel Arató <exitconsole@gmail.com>:
> > Is the solution Lojban or English?
>
> I suspect this is rather like his question years ago of "how many
> locks contain a weasel" - it's an English question with an English
> answer, but you can't answer it without reference to Lojban.
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On Friday 04 December 2009 14:15:11 Dániel Arató wrote:
> Is the solution Lojban or English?

The solution is two words in English (one of which is a lujvo) and one word (a
lujvo) in Lojban.

Pierre
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li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

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Luke, this is some kind of a puzzle. We've got to figure out how to
understand the given terms in such a way (probably in Lojban) that they
become actually interconnected, so that the "cake" and "furniture" parts
also acquire some actual, particular meaning.
E.g. the expression "dairy products" seems unnecessarily specific and
precise, so that would probably make a good starting point. No ideas yet,
though.

Daniel

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> In what way does the question/answer of "how many locks contain a
> weasel"/"????" require referencing lojban?  Or am I missing a pun or
> something?

The gismu for "lock" is "stela."

Weasels belong to the genus Mustela.

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Hmm, try translating into lojban first:
How many locks contain a weasel?

xo stela cu vasru lo mustlei

Nope, no idea there.

And the new one:
A dog who invents dairy products climbed on furniture and ate small long
cakes. He became weak and unable to
move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture?
lo gerku poi finti loi ladru cu cpare lo nilce gi'e citka lo cmalu clani
titnanba .i lo gerku cu ruble binxo gi'e na ka'e muvdu .i ma titnanba .ije
ma nilce

Nope, still no idea.

mu'o mi'e cmacis

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable to
> move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture?

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ladyfingers/table?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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> spoiler

....... I'm going to have to think about that for a while. I still don't
get it.

2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>

> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable
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> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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Even if you're right, how does that answer the question?

stevo

2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>

> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable
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> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Steven Lytle <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
> Even if you're right, how does that answer the question?

Not sure what you mean. The question was "What were the cakes, and
what was the furniture?" and my answer is that the cakes were
ladyfingers and the furniture was a table.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

> stevo
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> 2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
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>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

>> > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable
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I think he meant, why is that the answer? I'd like to know this as well.

cmacis

On 05/12/2009, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Steven Lytle <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Even if you're right, how does that answer the question?
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> Not sure what you mean. The question was "What were the cakes, and
> what was the furniture?" and my answer is that the cakes were
> ladyfingers and the furniture was a table.
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> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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> > stevo
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> > 2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
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> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>

> wrote:
> >> > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and
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On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:39 PM, james riley <jimr1603@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think he meant, why is that the answer? I'd like to know this as well.

Think rafsi.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

> cmacis
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> On 05/12/2009, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Steven Lytle <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Even if you're right, how does that answer the question?
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>> Not sure what you mean. The question was "What were the cakes, and
>> what was the furniture?" and my answer is that the cakes were
>> ladyfingers and the furniture was a table.
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>> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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>> > stevo
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>> > 2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
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>> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>

>> >> wrote:
>> >> > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and
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2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>

> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable
> to
> > move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture?
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I think I can explain xorxes's answer.
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le *ladyfinger*ku cu cpare lo nilce gi'e citka lo cmalu je clani titnanba
.i *ta ble*bi'o gi'e nai kakne lo nu muvdu

mu'o mi'e komfn

cmacis is right. I asked the wrong question. I'll try again. How does the
introductory information lead to your answer?

stevo

2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>

> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Steven Lytle <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Even if you're right, how does that answer the question?
>
> Not sure what you mean. The question was "What were the cakes, and
> what was the furniture?" and my answer is that the cakes were
> ladyfingers and the furniture was a table.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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> > stevo
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> > 2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
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> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>

> wrote:
> >> > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and
> unable
> >> > to
> >> > move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture?
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Okay. I see it now.

stevo

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:01 PM, komfo,amonan <komfoamonan@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
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>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

>> > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and
>> unable to
>> > move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture?
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> le *ladyfinger*ku cu cpare lo nilce gi'e citka lo cmalu je clani titnanba
> .i *ta ble*bi'o gi'e nai kakne lo nu muvdu
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> mu'o mi'e komfn
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On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:01 AM, komfo,amonan <komfoamonan@gmail.com> wrote:
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> le ladyfingerku cu cpare lo nilce gi'e citka lo cmalu je clani titnanba
> .i ta blebi'o gi'e nai kakne lo nu muvdu

I got "ladyfinger" very quickly from "dog who invents dairy products",
but I wasn't too sure about "table". I had "ble", but I didn't know
what the "unable to move" in the question was for. I tried
"rinju"/"ri'u" but that didn't give anything useful in English. Then I
noticed that the question asked for "cakes", not just "cake", so it
was probably going to be "ladyfingers". That finaly suggested
"ladyfingerstable", and the "sta" somehow justified the "unable to
move".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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That was remarkably cool.