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! Proposed Definitions !! Proposed Definition of ''noi'' ;__noi__ (NOI):Incidental clause. ''noi'' is Lojban's non-restrictive relative clause. The "relative" part means that it attaches to a sumti to provide additional information about that sumti. ''noi'' immediately follows a sumti and is followed by a full bridi (which means it sometimes must be terminated with ku'o, the NOI selma'o terminator, or vau, the general bridi terminator, particularily if one wishes to add another sumti to the outer bridi). The "non-restrictive" part means that the information in the ''noi'' clause is not sufficient to completely identify the referents of the sumti that ''noi'' is attached to. In other words, the ''noi'' bridi is true about the sumti ''noi'' is attached to, but is not enough to pick out only the things the speaker has in mind among all the possible things that the sumti ''noi'' is attached to could refer to. Generally, ''noi'' is only used when the referents of the sumti have already been explained, or are obvious, and the speaker wishes to give additional information. Inside a ''noi'' clause, ''ke'a'' indicates the precise place of the bridi that the sumti is intended to fill, and translates some uses of the English word "it". !! Examples of ''noi'' Usage le gerku noi ke'a blanu cu barda ''The dog, incidentally it is white, is big.'' la alis noi ru'i senci cu sezysku ''Alice, who was continuously sneezing, said to herself.'' ro bifce noi pendo mi cu ji'a xebni lo sigja ''All bees, which are friends of mine, also hate cigars.'' This sentence was taken from the #lojban IRC channel, and asserts that every bee (or wasp or hornet) that exists (ignoring metaphysical issues) is both a friend of the speaker and hates cigars. This is probably not what the author intended. !! Proposed Definition of ''poi'' ;__poi__ (NOI):Restrictive clause. ''noi'' is Lojban's restrictive relative clause. The "relative" part means that it attaches to a sumti to provide additional information about that sumti. ''poi'' immediately follows a sumti and is followed by a full bridi (which means it sometimes must be terminated with ku'o, the NOI selma'o terminator, or vau, the general bridi terminator, particularily if one wishes to add another sumti to the outer bridi). The "restrictive" part means that the information in the ''poi'' clause is intended to completely identify the referents of the sumti that ''poi'' is attached to. In other words, out of all the possible things the sumti that ''poi'' is attached to could refer to (which, for example, in the case of ''lo dacti'' is a great many things indeed) sumti is actually intended by the speaker to refer only to those things that the sumti could refer to for which the bridi in the ''poi'' clause is also true. ''poi'' is often used with ''da'' to restrict ''da'' to some part of all the things which exist. Inside a ''noi'' clause, ''ke'a'' indicates the precise place of the bridi that the sumti is intended to fill, and translates some uses of the English word "it". !! Examples of ''poi'' Usage mi djica lo skami tanxe poi cmalu ''I want a computer box which is small.'' pau re'i pat ta poi zvati le canko cu mo ''Question to Pat: that which at the window is what?'' ''Pat: What is that at the window?'' abu tavla le mensi ro le cizra se lifri poi do ke'a puzi ca'o tcidu ''A (for Alice) talked to the (her) sister about all the strange experiences which you about them have just been reading.'' da poi gerku zo'u da vasxu ''There exists at least one thing which is a dog; this thing breathes.'' ;__voi__ (NOI):Descriptive clause. Non-veridical restrictive clause used to form complicated le-like descriptions using "ke'a". ;__ge'u__ (GEhU):End relative phrase. Elidable terminator: end relative/modal phrases; usually elidable in non-complex phrases. ;__ku'o__ (KUhO):End relative clause. Elidable terminator: end NOI relative clause; always elidable, but preferred in complex clauses. ;__vu'o__ (VUhO):Long scope relative. Joins relative clause/phrase to complete complex or logically connected sumti in afterthought. ;__goi__ (GOI):Pro-sumti assign. Sumti assignment; used to define/assign ko'a/fo'a series pro-sumti; Latin 'sive'. ;__ne__ (GOI):Incidental phrase. Non-restrictive relative phrase marker: which incidentally is associated with ... ;__no'u__ (GOI):Incidental identity. Non-restrictive appositive phrase marker: which incidentally is the same thing as ... ;__pe__ (GOI):Restrictive phrase. Restrictive relative phrase marker: which is associated with ...; loosest associative/possessive. ;__po__ (GOI):Is specific to. Restrictive relative phrase marker: which is specific to ...; normal possessive physical/legal. ;__po'e__ (GOI):Wich belongs to. Restrictive relative phrase marker: which belongs to ... ; inalienable possession. ;__po'u__ (GOI):Restrictive identity. Restrictive appositive phrase marker: which is the same thing as. ;__zi'e__ (ZIhE):Rel clause joiner. Joins relative clauses which apply to the same sumti. ! Formal Definitions (AKA conversion formulas) || noi | PA broda noi brode cu brodi | PA broda ge brode gi brodi poi + ro | ro broda poi brode cu brodi | ro da poi broda zo'u da ga nai brode gi brodi poi + su'o | su'o broda poi brode cu brodi | su'o da poi broda zo'u da ge brode gi brodi || ! Notes Example of the difference between noi and poi: "ro prenu noi xamgu cu klama" is a __monumentally__ different claim from "ro prenu poi xamgu cu klama". The former is "All people are good, and they go." The latter is "All the good people go". Formally, the former is "ro prenu ge xamgu gi klama", and the latter is "ro da poi prenu zo'u da ga nai brode gi brodi". With su'o, however, they are equivalent.

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