This page is for instructions and groupthink on moving the lojban.org site from a bunch of static (ish) html pages to the TikiWiki. If you're not helping with that effort, you probably don't want to be here.

Goals

Just for the record, here's why I'm doing this. This is an ordered list.

Make life easier for myself. That is, to make it easier for me to edit and maintain the site, and to make it possible for other people to do so at my direction (which also, obviously, makes my life easier).
Make a better site for the users. This is sort of a side effect of point 1 (the easier it is to make a good site, the more likely it is to happen), but the more Tiki features (such as expandable menus) we can leverage to make getting around the site easier for users, the better.

OK, so it's not much of a list.

I want to point out, though, that as a side effect of point 2, reducing user confusion is a Good Thing. I don't see any reasonable way to maintain the old URLs (although I'm going to try to redirect some of the ones listed below), but any ideas for making the site look and act more like the old site without violating point 1 are heartily encouraged.

Instructions

I strongly suggest that you have your browser set up to launch a Real Editor for text entry fields. I use a text-only browser (w3m) for this purpose. Mozilla-based browsers, such as Mozilla and Firefox, have the ability to interface with any editor using the mozex extension (must be downloaded separately).

(Update: MozEx has been abandoned and does not work for any recent version of Firefox. You want ViewSourceWith instead. - chrisd)

Pick an unclaimed page from the list below.
Decide on a name for it. The name should be a full English phrase (unless it's a translation, of course) with correct capitalization and spacing. This is going to be the page title, so it should look good in a browser title bar. Indicate that name in the list with a Wiki link to the name.
Copy the URL given.
Go to the link you've just created.
Paste the URL into the Import HTML box.
Check "Try to convert HTML to wiki"
Clean up the results

That last bit deserves a tad more explanation. The following things should be done when cleaning up:

Remove all HTML.
Remove all the menu and flags stuff at the top.
Replace all links to other files that appear in the list below with Wiki links to their Wiki page names.
- If a file has not had a Wiki page name assigned, assign one and enter it here, but do not link to it. This indicates that a name has been assigned, but no-one has imported the page yet.
Put paragraphs on a single line so they'll get wrapped properly.
Trim headers (that's lines that start with . What I mean by this is, if a page's title is "Foo", there's no need to have "!Foo" at the top, which is what the import will usually generate. In some cases (such as the minutes) the first header is too long to make a reasonable page name, and thus might as well be preserved, but in most cases the first header should be deleted. This implies removing one ! from all the other headers.

The pages below the don't end in ".en" are those tranlations that seemed to have a non-trivial amount done on them on the old site. The process for doing translations is just the same, except that after you're done entering the translated page, go to the button at the bottom that says "translation". Select the language of the page, hit save. Then go to the page this is a translation for, make sure a language is selected (select one and hit save if not). Then enter the translation you just created in "Set of translations", and click "go" or "add to set" (depending on if there are already other translations).

The Files List


http://www.lojban.org/about.html.en	About Lojban
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/about.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/about.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/about.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/about.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/advanced.html.en	Lojban For Advanced Students
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/advanced.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/advanced.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/advanced.html.fr
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/advanced.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/advanced.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html.en	Lojban For Beginners
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html.fr
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/feedback.html.en	Contact Us
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/feedback.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/feedback.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/feedback.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/feedback.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/help.html.en	Help
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/help.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/help.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/help.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/help.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/howtohelp.html.en	How You Can Help
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/howtohelp.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/howtohelp.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/howtohelp.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/howtohelp.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/index.html.en	Import Root (For translation purposes, consider the name to be "Home Page")
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/index.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/index.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/index.html.he
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/index.html.jbo	ralju pagbu
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/index.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/index.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/llg/about_llg.html.en	About The Logical Language Group
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/about_llg.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/about_llg.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/about_llg.html.jbo
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/about_llg.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/about_llg.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/llg/baseline.html.en	Official Baseline Statement
http://www.lojban.org/llg/bylaws.html.en	Bylaws of The Logical Language Group, Inc.
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/bylaws.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/llg/committees.html.en	Official LLG Committees
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/committees.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/llg/contact.html.en	Contact US
http://www.lojban.org/llg/genlic.html.en	LLG Web Copyright License
http://www.lojban.org/llg/memberlist.html.en	LLG Members
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1989_annual.html.en	LLG 1989 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1990_annual.html.en	LLG 1990 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1991_annual.html.en	LLG 1991 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1992_annual.html.en	LLG 1992 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1993_annual.html.en	LLG 1993 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1994_annual.html.en	LLG 1994 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1995_annual.html.en	LLG 1995 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1996_annual.html.en	LLG 1996 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1997_annual.html.en	LLG 1997 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1998_annual.html.en	LLG 1998 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1999_annual.html.en	LLG 1999 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2000_annual.html.en	LLG 2000 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2001_annual.html.en	LLG 2001 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2001_board.html.en	LLG 2001 Board Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2002_annual.html.en	LLG 2002 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2002_board.html.en	LLG 2002 Board Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2002_board_2.html.en	LLG 2002 Second Board Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2003_annual.html.en	LLG 2003 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes.html.en	LLG Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/old_projects.html.en	Old LLG Projects
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/old_projects.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/llg/projects.html.en	Official LLG Projects
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/projects.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/llg.html.en	The Logical Language Group
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/overview.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/regform.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/llg.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/ordernet.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/rusbrochure.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/lojbroch.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/gismu.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/etymology/finprims.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-textbook/less00g.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-textbook/lesson00.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/introduction.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson1.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson2.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson6.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson7.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lojbancourse.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson3.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson5.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson4.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft_dictionary.html.en	Old Draft Dictionary
http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft_textbook.html.en	Old Draft Textbook
http://www.lojban.org/publications/etymology.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/formal_grammars.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/loglan.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/minilsn.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/misc.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/lojintro.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/miniexer.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/cll.html.en	The Complete Lojban Language
http://www.lojban.org/publications/level0.html.en	What Is Lojban?, The Book
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter1.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter10.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter11.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter12.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter13.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter14.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter15.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter16.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter17.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter18.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter19.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter2.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter20.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter21.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter3.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter4.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter5.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter6.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter7.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter8.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter9.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar.html.en	The Lojban Reference Grammar
http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists.html.en	Lojban Wordlists
http://www.lojban.org/publications.html.en	LLG Publications
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/publications.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/publications.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/publications.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/quick.html.en	Popular Pages
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/quick.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/quick.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/quick.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/resources/community.html.en	Lojbanic Community Links
http://www.lojban.org/resources/faq.html.en	Frequently Asked Questions — Need to add anchors, such as #lujvo and #TLI
http://www.lojban.org/resources/forums.html.en	Lojbanic Forums
http://www.lojban.org/resources/jbobau.html.en	Web Pages in Lojban
http://www.lojban.org/resources/misc.html.en	Miscellaneous Lojban Stuff
http://www.lojban.org/resources/non_english.html.en	Non-English Lojban Materials
http://www.lojban.org/resources/promotional.html.en	Promotional Materials
http://www.lojban.org/resources/tools.html.en	Lojbanic Software
http://www.lojban.org/resources.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/search.html.en	Pointless; ignore.
http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.de	IGNORE FOR NOW
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.es	IGNORE FOR NOW
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.fr	IGNORE FOR NOW
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.he	IGNORE FOR NOW
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.jbo	IGNORE FOR NOW
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.no	IGNORE FOR NOW
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.sv	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/texts/original.html.en	Original Texts In Lojban
http://www.lojban.org/texts/translations/alice.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/texts/translations/cvs.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/texts/translations/drbible.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/texts/translations.html.en	Translations
http://www.lojban.org/texts.html.en	Texts In Lojban
http://www.lojban.org/whatis.html.en	What Is Lojban?
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/whatis.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/whatis.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/whatis.html.jbo
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/whatis.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/whatis.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/whats_new.html.en	What's New?
http://www.lojban.org/where.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/why_learn.html.en	Why Learn Lojban?

Information	Version
Thu 14 of Jul, 2005 19:25 GMT raladue from 64.172.182.137	47
Thu 14 of Jul, 2005 19:24 GMT raladue from 64.172.182.137	46
Wed 13 of Jul, 2005 04:56 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.49.134	45
Wed 13 of Jul, 2005 00:05 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.49.134	44
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Mon 11 of Jul, 2005 22:42 GMT raladue from 67.124.63.75	39
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