This page is for instructions and groupthink on moving the lojban.org site from a bunch of static (ish) html pages to the TikiWiki. If you're not helping with that effort, you probably don't want to be here.

Goals

Just for the record, here's why I'm doing this. This is an ordered list.

Make life easier for myself. That is, to make it easier for me to edit and maintain the site, and to make it possible for other people to do so at my direction (which also, obviously, makes my life easier).
Make a better site for the users. This is sort of a side effect of point 1 (the easier it is to make a good site, the more likely it is to happen), but the more Tiki features (such as expandable menus) we can leverage to make getting around the site easier for users, the better.

OK, so it's not much of a list.

I want to point out, though, that as a side effect of point 2, reducing user confusion is a Good Thing. I'm actually using the tables on this page to automatically create a giant redirection list, so the old site URLs should continue to work as normal.

Stage Two Instructions

Now that we have actually done the site move, the instructions below don't work so well. In particular, most of the links below will fail. To make them work again, go to www.lojban.org/static/; this will give you the old site. In addition, www.lojban.org/remaining/ has all the things that still need to be moved, most of which aren't HTML and most of which aren't on the list below, so you'll need to add them. In particular, http://www.lojban.org/remaining/file_list.txt has a complete list of all the stuff that's in there, and hence still needs to be moved.

Please ignore the stuff under "texts/translations" for the time being. Those are all automated, so there needs to be some code hacking there.

Instructions

I strongly suggest that you have your browser set up to launch a Real Editor for text entry fields. I use a text-only browser (w3m) for this purpose. Mozilla-based browsers, such as Mozilla and Firefox, have the ability to interface with any editor using the mozex or ViewSourceWith extension (must be downloaded separately). The former is older, and may not work on Windows.

Pick an unclaimed page from the list below.
Decide on a name for it. The name should be a full English phrase (unless it's a translation, of course) with correct capitalization and spacing. This is going to be the page title, so it should look good in a browser title bar. Indicate that name in the list with a Wiki link to the name.
Copy the URL given.
Go to the link you've just created.
Select the language
Set the category to Official and select "categorize this object"
Paste the URL into the Import HTML box.
Check "Try to convert HTML to wiki"
Click "Import"
Clean up the results
Save the page
Lock the page

The "clean up the results" step deserves a tad more explanation. The following things should be done when cleaning up:

Remove all HTML.
Remove all the menu and flags stuff at the top.
Replace all links to other files that appear in the list below with Wiki links to their Wiki page names.
- If a file has not had a Wiki page name assigned, assign one and enter it here, but do not put anything in the link you create. This (a named page with nothing in it) indicates that a name has been assigned, but no-one has imported the page yet.
Put all items in a list on consecutive lines.
Trim headers (that's lines that start with . What I mean by this is, if a page's title is "Foo", there's no need to have "!Foo" at the top, which is what the import will usually generate. In some cases (such as the minutes) the first header is too long to make a reasonable page name, and thus might as well be preserved, but in most cases the first header should be deleted. This implies removing one ! from all the other headers.
If there is a link to something in the lojban.org web space that is not an HTML file, put it in the non-HTML files table at the bottom of this page.

The pages below the don't end in ".en" are those tranlations that seemed to have a non-trivial amount done on them on the old site. The process for doing translations is just the same, except that after you're done entering the translated page, go to the button at the bottom that says "translation". Select the language of the page, hit save. Then go to the page this is a translation for, make sure a language is selected (select one and hit save if not). Then enter the translation you just created in "Set of translations", and click "go" or "add to set" (depending on if there are already other translations).

The Files List


http://www.lojban.org/about.html.en	About Lojban
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/about.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/about.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/about.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/about.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/advanced.html.en	Lojban For Advanced Students
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/advanced.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/advanced.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/advanced.html.fr
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/advanced.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/advanced.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html.en	Lojban For Beginners
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html.fr
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/feedback.html.en	Contact Us
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/feedback.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/feedback.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/feedback.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/feedback.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/help.html.en	Help
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/help.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/help.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/help.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/help.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/howtohelp.html.en	How You Can Help
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/howtohelp.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/howtohelp.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/howtohelp.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/howtohelp.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/index.html.en	Lojban
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/index.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/index.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/index.html.he
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/index.html.jbo	la lojban. mo
http://www.lojban.org/index.html.en	Lojban
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/index.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/index.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/llg/about_llg.html.en	About The Logical Language Group
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/about_llg.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/about_llg.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/about_llg.html.jbo
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/about_llg.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/about_llg.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/llg/baseline.html.en	Official Baseline Statement
http://www.lojban.org/llg/bylaws.html.en	Bylaws of The Logical Language Group, Inc.
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/bylaws.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/llg/committees.html.en	Old LLG Committees
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/committees.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/llg/contact.html.en	Contact US
http://www.lojban.org/llg/genlic.html.en	LLG Web Copyright License
http://www.lojban.org/learning.html.en	Lojban — Just not worth it
http://www.lojban.org/llg/memberlist.html.en	LLG Members
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1989_annual.html.en	LLG 1989 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1990_annual.html.en	LLG 1990 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1991_annual.html.en	LLG 1991 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1992_annual.html.en	LLG 1992 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1993_annual.html.en	LLG 1993 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1994_annual.html.en	LLG 1994 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1995_annual.html.en	LLG 1995 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1996_annual.html.en	LLG 1996 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1997_annual.html.en	LLG 1997 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1998_annual.html.en	LLG 1998 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/1999_annual.html.en	LLG 1999 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2000_annual.html.en	LLG 2000 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2001_annual.html.en	LLG 2001 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2001_board.html.en	LLG 2001 Board Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2002_annual.html.en	LLG 2002 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2002_board.html.en	LLG 2002 Board Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2002_board_2.html.en	LLG 2002 Second Board Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes/2003_annual.html.en	LLG 2003 Annual Meeting Minutes
http://www.lojban.org/llg/minutes.html.en	LLG Meetings
http://www.lojban.org/llg/old_projects.html.en	Old LLG Projects
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/old_projects.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/llg/projects.html.en	Official LLG Projects
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg/projects.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/llg.html.en	The Logical Language Group
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/llg.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/overview.html.en	Overview Of Lojban
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/regform.html.en	Old LLG Registration Form
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/llg.html.en	Old LLG Brochure
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/ordernet.html.en	Old LLG Order Form
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/lojbroch.html.en	Lojban Introductory Brochure
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/rusbrochure.html.en
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/gismu.html.en	gismu Brochure
http://www.lojban.org/publications/etymology/finprims.html.en	gismu Etymology
http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-textbook/less00g.html.en	Lesson 0, part1 — uploaded as a file, as we don't want this to be edited
http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-textbook/lesson00.html.en	Lesson 0, part 2 — uploaded as a file, as we don't want this to be edited
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/introduction.html.en	Lojban Tutorial: Introduction
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson1.html.en	Lojban Tutorial: Lesson 1
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson2.html.en	Lojban Tutorial: Lesson 2
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson6.html.en	Lojban Tutorial: Lesson 6
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson7.html.en	Lojban Tutorial: Lesson 7
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lojbancourse.html.en	Lojban Tutorial
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson3.html.en	Lojban Tutorial: Lesson 3
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson5.html.en	Lojban Tutorial: Lesson 5
http://www.lojban.org/publications/tutorial/lesson4.html.en	Lojban Tutorial: Lesson 4
http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft_dictionary.html.en	Old Draft Dictionary
http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft_textbook.html.en	Old Draft Textbook
http://www.lojban.org/publications/etymology.html.en	Lojban Etymology
http://www.lojban.org/publications/formal_grammars.html.en	Lojban Formal Grammars



http://www.lojban.org/publications/loglan.html.en	The Loglan-Lojban Dispute
http://www.lojban.org/publications/minilsn.html.en	Lojban Mini-Lesson
http://www.lojban.org/publications/misc.html.en	Miscellaneous LLG Publications
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures.html.en	Lojban Brochures
http://www.lojban.org/publications/lojintro.html.en	Lojban Introductory Essay
http://www.lojban.org/publications/miniexer.html.en	Lojban Mini-Lesson Exercises
http://www.lojban.org/publications/cll.html.en	The Complete Lojban Language
http://www.lojban.org/publications/level0.html.en	What Is Lojban?, The Book
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar.html.en	The Lojban Reference Grammar
http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists.html.en	Lojban Wordlists
http://www.lojban.org/publications.html.en	LLG Publications
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/publications.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/publications.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/publications.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/quick.html.en	Popular Pages
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/quick.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/quick.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/quick.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/resources/community.html.en	Lojbanic Community Links
http://www.lojban.org/resources/faq.html.en	Frequently Asked Questions About Lojban
http://www.lojban.org/resources/forums.html.en	Lojbanic Forums
N/A (based on jbobau and an now-defunct Wiki page)	Web Pages in Lojban
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/resources/jbobau.html.en	samrxuebe pabgu bau la .lojban. — translation incomplete
http://www.lojban.org/resources/misc.html.en	Miscellaneous Lojban Stuff
http://www.lojban.org/resources/non_english.html.en	Non-English Lojban Materials
http://www.lojban.org/resources/promotional.html.en	Promotional Materials
http://www.lojban.org/resources/tools.html.en	Lojbanic Software
http://www.lojban.org/resources.html.en	Lojban Resources, also turned into the Resources menu.
http://www.lojban.org/search.html.en	tiki-searchresults.php — best I can see
http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.en	Lojban — no real replacement yet
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.de	IGNORE FOR NOW
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.es	IGNORE FOR NOW
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.fr	IGNORE FOR NOW
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.he	IGNORE FOR NOW
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.jbo	IGNORE FOR NOW
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.no	IGNORE FOR NOW
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/sitemap.html.sv	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/texts/original.html.en	Original Texts In Lojban
http://www.lojban.org/texts/translations/alice.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/texts/translations/cvs.html.en	Lojban CVS Server
http://www.lojban.org/texts/translations/drbible.html.en	IGNORE FOR NOW
http://www.lojban.org/texts/translations.html.en	Translations
http://www.lojban.org/texts.html.en	Texts In Lojban
http://www.lojban.org/whatis.html.en	What Is Lojban?
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/whatis.html.de
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/whatis.html.es
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/whatis.html.jbo
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/whatis.html.no
Trans: http://www.lojban.org/whatis.html.sv
http://www.lojban.org/whats_new.html.en	What's New?
http://www.lojban.org/where.html.en	Lojban — Just not worth it.
http://www.lojban.org/why_learn.html.en	Why Learn Lojban?

Free-Form Redirection Table

Gets turned into pretty arbitrary redirects. Please be careful.


http://www.lojban.org/en/	http://www.lojban.org/
http://www.lojban.org/files/machine-grammars/	http://www.lojban.org/publications/formal-grammars/
http://www.lojban.org/files/draft-dictionary/	http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-dictionary/
http://www.lojban.org/files/genlic.html	http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=LLG+Web+Copyright+License&bl
http://www.lojban.org/files/brochures/	http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/regform.htm	http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Old+LLG+Registration+Form&bl

Table Of Non-HTML Files

Most (but perhaps not all) of these files should be turned into
attachments on a wiki page and linked here using the {file ...} format links. Hmm. Maybe not. Simpler to leave them where they are. Saves a lot of wierd probelms. Should probably put the RefGram stuff back too, in fact.


http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/gismu_english_order.txt
http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/gismu_spanish.txt
http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/oblique_keywords.txt
http://www.lojban.org/publications/etymology/	A directory, linked from Lojban Etymology
http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-textbook/	A directory, linked from Old Draft Textbook
http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-dictionary/	A directory with sub-directories, linked from Old Draft Dictionary
http://www.lojban.org/publications/formal-grammars/bnf.300.txt	Linked from Lojban Formal Grammars
http://www.lojban.org/publications/formal-grammars/grammar.300.txt	Linked from Lojban Formal Grammars
http://www.lojban.org/publications/formal-grammars/techfix.300.txt	Linked from Lojban Formal Grammars
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/lojex.txt	Linked from Miscellaneous LLG Publications
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/level-2.pdf	Linked from Lojban Brochures
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/level-2.doc	Linked from Lojban Brochures
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/level-2.sxw	Linked from Lojban Brochures
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/brochure_english.txt	Linked from Lojban Brochures
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/brochure_espanol.txt	Linked from Lojban Brochures
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/brochure_esperanto.tex	Linked from Lojban Brochures
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/brochure_esperanto.html	Linked from Lojban Brochures
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/brochure_french.txt	Linked from Lojban Brochures
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/brochure_russian.html	Linked from Lojban Brochures
http://www.lojban.org/publications/brochures/brochure.short	Linked from Lojban Brochures

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Tue 12 of Jul, 2005 20:58 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.49.134	40
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Tue 05 of Jul, 2005 23:24 GMT arj from 129.241.222.14	34
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Thu 23 of Jun, 2005 15:29 GMT Eppcott from 209.220.229.254	4 - 5
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Thu 23 of Jun, 2005 10:18 GMT arj from 129.241.222.95 Added note on Mozilla, Firefox, and mozex	2
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