History: BPFK Section: Miscellaneous Notes And To-Dos

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Please don't use this page unless you really have to; surely there's a better ((BPFK Sections|BPFK Section)) for it? * We really need to nail down how masses and sets interact with brivla. For example, a very non-English sentence but: "this shirt is red in a way that fits with these 4 other shirts (call them c, d, f, and g)" is ''not'' {ti jbini cy .e dy .e fy .e gy lo ka xunre}, because that distributes to {ti jbini cy lo ka xunre} ** If the group of shirts has a name, say "tibble", does {ti jbini la .tibl. lo ka xunre} work? Why or why not? ** If I point at them; {ti jbini ta lo ka xunre}, does that work? How? What have I pointed at, exactly? *** Yes, you have pointed at this shirt with "ti" and at those other shirts with "ta". ** Does a set work here? Since a basic operation on sets in a mathematical context is "for each x in X ...", it seems like it should; {ti jbini cy ce dy ce fy ce gy lo ka xunri}, if you call the set of 4 shirts X, is "for every x in X, there exists a y in X such that redness(ti) is between redness(x) and redness(y)". This is completely standard mathematical idiom, and I (rlpowell) rather like it. ***You can easily do that with plural reference: "ro da poi me ta zo'u su'o de poi me ta zo'u da ti de bancu lo ka ce'u xunre". No need to make "ta" a set. (Nice definition of "jbini", BTW. I just added it to jbovlaste.) mi'e ((xorxes)) ** Does a mass work here? It seems to me (rlpowell) that saying "no" gives us an opportunity to make sets useful and to nail down what masses are. In that way, sets become "thing that is not distributive, with the default operation upon them being 'for each x,...' with ... left to context". Masses, on the other hand, become "thing that is not distributive, with the default operation upon them being 'all of the members collectively ...'". Maybe even just "for all x, x is a participant in ...". Something that makes {lei tadni cu sruri le dinju} work, anyways. I don't think {loi ratcu cu cmalu} is in any way useful or needs to be held on to, though; that's what {lo'e} is for. Let alone the whole {loi ratcu cu bunre .i je loi ratcu cu xekri}; that shit is just silly.

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Sun 06 of Nov, 2011 13:16 GMT Brendan from 220.253.48.128 Added spelling error	13
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Tue 30 of Nov, 2010 23:01 GMT Eimi from 128.252.20.177	10
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