History: BPFK Section: Tense

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{BOX()} !! cmavo: cu'e (CUhE) !!! Proposed Definition Tense/modal question. Turns the entire bridi into a question, and requests that the listener provide a tense/modal as an answer. The tense/modal response fills the place where cu'e was in the original bridi and the resulting bridi is the answer offered to the question. !!! Proposed Tag fi'o mo !!! See Also * {mo} * {ma} * {pei} * {xo} * {xu} !!! Proposed Keywords * tense/modal question !!! Usage Examples ;do cu'e se bangu la .lojban.:''When did you use Lojban?'' ;.i doi .kapos. do cu'e tadni la .lojban.:''Kapos, when have you previously/are you currently/will you study Lojban?'' ;do cikybi'o cu'e lo nu lo zerle'a cu cliva:''Did you wake up before or after the burglar left, or while he left, or what?'' !!! Notes It is nigh impossible to translate this word into English without using at least three sentences. !!! Issues {BOX} {BOX()} !! cmavo: nau (CUhE) !!! Proposed Definition Time tense. It refers to the current space/time absolutely. !!! Proposed Tag * ca je bu'u lo nu cusku dei !!! See Also * ca * bu'u * dei !!! Proposed Keywords * now * here and now !!! Usage Examples ni'o nau djedi li bi fa lo mi nu spofu bu'u lo kutytu'a%%% ''It is now eight days I have been broken down in the desert.'' !!! Notes !!! Issues While this word can be used as a sumtcita, it has no specified meaning, nor can I think of any useful meaning. I would like to add a sentence to the definition that says something like "Use as a sumtcita is not intended" or somesuch. {BOX} {BOX()} !! cmavo: ba (PU) !!! Proposed Definition A time tense relation/direction. The meaning as a sumtcita is that the main bridi happens after the attached sumti. Defaults to a perspective of future-tense, and can be used with a meaning similar to future-tense in natural languages, or as "after". !!! Proposed Tag fi'o se balvi !!! See Also *{ca} *{pu} *{balvi} !!! Proposed Keywords * will * going to * future-tense !!! Usage Examples .i xu ro cmene be lo gugde ba se vasru la jbovlaste%%% ''Will every country name be in Jbovlaste?'' ;.au pei mi'o kelci lo bolci ba lo nu mi cikre lo karce:''Would you like us to play ball after I fix the car?'' !!! Notes !!! Issues {BOX} {BOX()} !! cmavo: ca (PU) !!! Proposed Definition A time tense relation/direction. The meaning as a sumtcita is that the main bridi happens simultaneous to the attached sumti. Defaults to a perspective of present-tense, and can be used with a meaning similar to present-tense in natural languages, or as "concurrent with" or "at the same time as". !!! Proposed Tag fi'o se cabna !!! See Also *{ba} *{pu} *{cabna} !!! Proposed Keywords * at/during * now !!! Usage Examples ;xu do ca jimpe:''Do you now understand?'' ;.i la .ko'an. ca tcidu fi la xunre cukta:''Kohan is reading in the Red Book.'' ;.i ui mi surla ca lo cabdei:''Yay, today I relax.'' ;mi ca lo nu mi'o kansi'u cu glekyrai lo ro remna:''When we are together, I am the happiest of all the humans.'' !!! Notes !!! Issues {BOX} {BOX()} !! cmavo: pu (PU) !!! Proposed Definition Before. A time tense relation/direction. The meaning as a sumtcita is that the main bridi happens before the attached sumti. Defaults to a perspective of past-tense, and can be used with a meaning similar to past-tense in natural languages, or as "before". !!! Proposed Tag fi'o se purci !!! See Also *{ba} *{ca} *{purci} !!! Proposed Keywords * was * before * past-tense !!! Usage Examples ;mi pu zi dunda lo ropno rupnu be li re no la .djef.leit. noi finti la purmo ku noi me la .nintendon.dys. selkei:''I just gave twenty euros to Jeff Lait, the creator of POWDER, which is a game for the Nintendo DS.'' ;.i do pu cusku lu la cizra cu palci li'u:''You said, 'The Strange One is evil'.'' ;mi djica lo nu do pu lo nu sipna cu lumci lo denci be do:''I want you to brush your teeth before you sleep.'' !!! Notes !!! Issues {BOX} {BOX()} !! cmavo: ki (KI) !!! Proposed Definition Set tense default. Establishes the tagged sumti as time, space, and/or modal reference point of the bridi, until end of text or the tense is reset. When following another tense, it establishes that tense as the default reference point. !!! Proposed Tag fi'o manri !!! See Also !!! Proposed Keywords * set reference point * from !!! Usage Examples ;.i mi sipna ki lo zdani be mi va lo ki'otre be li so'i:''I slept many kilometres away from home.'' ;.i ku'i pu ki ku mi na sanji le du'u do ca mutce gunka tu'a la .penguikon.:''Previously, however, I wasn't aware of the fact that you were working hard on Penguicon.__ !!! Notes !!! Issues [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/318467201efe1890|Restrictions using ki?] Does a new {ki} work from an existing one, or replace it? Needs notes on cancellation (empty {ki}) and subscripting for storing tenses for later. {BOX} {BOX()} !! cmavo: ca ma (PU*) !!! Proposed Definition A cmavo compound time tense relation/direction. Asks with what the main bridi is concurrent, similar to English "when?". !!! Proposed Tag fi'o se cabna ma !!! See Also *{ca} *{ma} !!! Proposed Keywords * when !!! Usage Examples ca ma do mo'u cilre fo le balcu'e%%% ''When will or did you graduate from Uni?'' !!! Notes !!! Issues {BOX} !! General Section Issues ! 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Sat 21 of Jun, 2014 18:59 GMT Ilmen from 37.252.203.90 Adding a proposed formal def for {nau}.	73		Actions View Source
Sat 14 of Jun, 2014 20:33 GMT Ilmen from 128.140.133.185 Modifying the keywords and see also	72		Actions View Source
Sun 08 of Jun, 2014 19:28 GMT mukti from 216.194.27.154	71		Actions View Source
Thu 29 of May, 2014 14:05 GMT selpa'i from 93.220.76.143	60 - 70		Actions View Source
Wed 04 of May, 2011 20:07 GMT Eimi from 128.252.20.177	59		Actions View Source
Wed 29 of Dec, 2010 06:11 GMT lindarthebard from 32.175.23.84	58		Actions View Source
Sun 31 of Oct, 2010 18:34 GMT arj from 178.74.14.177 Fixed some examples and translations of examples	57		Actions View Source
Fri 15 of Oct, 2010 02:55 GMT eyeonus from 132.178.238.2 Removed superfluous PU* entries.	56		Actions View Source
Fri 15 of Oct, 2010 01:36 GMT xorxes from 190.136.124.89	55		Actions View Source
Fri 15 of Oct, 2010 01:30 GMT eyeonus from 132.178.238.2 Wrote definition for {ki}.	32 - 54		Actions View Source
Thu 14 of Oct, 2010 23:27 GMT eyeonus from 132.178.238.2	31		Actions View Source
Thu 14 of Oct, 2010 22:16 GMT eyeonus from 132.178.238.2 Changed "word" to "name" in translation.	24 - 30		Actions View Source

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