History: BPFK Section: Typicals

Source of version: 4 (current)

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!! cmavo: lo'e (LE)

!!! Proposed Defiition
Typical article. Converts a selbri, selecting its first argument, into a sumti. The resulting expression indicates that the individuals that satisfy the selbri typically also satisfy the predicate for which the sumti is an argument. Quantifiers do not have a clear meaning with this gadri.

!!! Proposed Tag

!!! See Also
* {le'e}
* {le}
* {lo}

!!! Proposed Keywords
* the typical

!!! Usage Examples
;lo'e glipre cu xabju le fi'ortu'a na.e le gligugde:"The typical English person dwells not in Africa but in England."

;ju'o cu'i mi milxe simsa lo'e makcu prenu:"Perhaps I am a little like the grown-ups."

!!! Notes
lu lo'e broda cu brode li'u mintu lu lo ka ce'u brode cu zilfadni lo'i ro broda li'u


!!! Issues

[http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/d2bd528b13bede04|Another argument about unicorns.]

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!! cmavo: le'e (LE)

!!! Proposed Definition
Stereotypical article. Converts a selbri, selecting its first argument, into a sumti. The resulting expression indicates that the individuals that the speaker describes with the selbri typically satisfy, from the point of view of the speaker, the predicate for which the sumti is an argument. Quantifiers do not have a clear meaning with this gadri.

!!! Proposed Tag


!!! See Also
* {lo'e}
* {le}
* {lo}

!!! Proposed Keywords
* the stereotypical

!!! Usage Examples
;le'e xelso merko cu gusta ponse:"Lots of Greek-Americans own restaurants."

;le'e rozgu cu xunre:"Roses are red."
!!! Notes
lu le'e broda cu brode li'u mintu lu pe'i lo ka ce'u brode cu zilfadni le'i broda li'u

!!! Issues

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!!General Section Issues

*The contextual definitions of ''lo'e'' and ''le'e'' are given as a starting point towards their formalization, but many questions remain unanswered:
** Negation: Is ''lo'e broda na brode'' equivalent to ''lo ka ce'u na brode cu mutce kampu lo'i ro broda'' or  to ''lo ka ce'u brode cu na mutce kampu lo'i ro broda''?
** Expansions: Is ''lo'e broda cu brode gi'e brodi'' equivalent to ''lo ka ce'u brode gi'e brodi cu mutce kampu lo'i ro broda'' or  to ''lo ka ce'u brode e lo ka ce'u brodi cu mutce kampu lo'i ro broda''?
** Multiple lo'e: Is ''lo'e broda cu brode lo'e brodi'' equivalent to ''lo ka ce'u brode ce'u cu mutce kampu lo'i ro broda pi'u lo'i ro brodi'' or  to something else?
** Subordination: Is ''lo nu lo'e broda cu brode cu brodi'' equivalent to ''lo ka lo nu ce'u broda cu brode cu mutce kampu lo'i broda'' or to ''lo nu lo ka ce'u brode cu mutce kampu lo'i broda cu brodi''?
** ... 

* Usage convention suggestions

**__lo'e se__ with the word for a kind of organism can refer to the taxon containing all members of the kind and no others, if that exists. So ''lo'e se guzme'' means the family Cucurbitaceae, while ''lo se guzme'' can be Cucumis, Sicyos, Luffa, or any of several others. ''lo'e se jesymabru'', however, has no clear meaning, as ''jesymabru'' can refer to both spiny anteaters and hedgehogs.
History: BPFK Section: Typicals

Source of version: 4 (current)

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