History: Inconsistent Gismu Place Structures Gotcha

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Some ((gismu)) have unexpected place structures. *Almost all gismu for animal or plant species have individual x1 of species x2, except: ** Among animals, ((lanme)) and ((tirxu)), which add a third place, and ((remna)), which leaves out the x2. (These constitute the "Three Exceptional Animals"...''le ci narcnano danlu'') *** In Loglan, the x3 of "bee" is the hive. ** Among plants, ((latna)) (because it's not really a type of plant) and ((ckunu)) which adds x3=cones. (Any others?) ** ((vidru)) also has an x3 place. * ''jalge'' has x1 and x2 reversed relative to ''krinu'', ''mukti'', ''nibli'' and ''rinka'' (see ((selbri for causality))). ** I find this extremely confusing, especially when using ''ja'e'' or ''seja'e''. ''mi'e ((jezrax))'' ** That way, if you want to emphasize the result, you use ''jalge'', and if you want to emphasize the cause, use one of the others. * ''ve tcika'' is the location of an event with given time, while ''te detri'' is the location of an event of with given date. * From and to confusion: all(?) movement ''gismu'' have __to__ before __from__, but not all others. ** This confusion is related to the way English overloads __to__ and __from__ with many meanings. ** ''binxo'': from A to B; ''farvi'' to B from A ** ''pruce'': from input A to output B * Most measuring-unit gismu have the standard as x3, including ''gutci'', but ''mitre'' and ''minli'' have it as x4. x3 of ''mitre'' is the direction, and x3 of ''minli'' is the subunit. ---- (For those who appreciate the abstract beauty of language, this aspect resembles "irregular verbs" in natural ones.) (For those who appreciate the concrete beauty of a logical language, this aspect resembles Perl. And ((nitcion|I)) don't mean that in a good way.)

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