History: Suggestions for CLL, second edition

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General considerations

  1. Lojban terms are used for most parts of speech, except for quantifiers and descriptors. Needlessly inconsistent?
  2. In chapter 3, section 6, restriction no. 2 already forbids 8 of the 12 consonant pairs that are forbidden by restriction no. 3; perhaps it's better to just explicitly forbid the pairs "cs", "jz", "sc" and "zj" like in the last restriction.
  • I kind of like that the explanation for those pairs being forbidden is given, even if it includes things already forbidden. I would like it slightly better if the word "sibilant" were used. Perhaps for consistency the reason could be given for the last restriction instead of listing seemingly-random pairs. .imi'e .skaryzgik.
  1. In chapter 4, section 7, in the procedure for making a non-Lojban word into a valid Stage 3 fu'ivla, double consonants are to be eliminated before the sounds are to be converted to their closest Lojban equivalents, but it is possible that consecutive consonants have different sounds (like in 'eccentric'). So these actions should swap places. The same goes for section 8, in the procedure for Lojbanizing a name.
  2. It would be better if formal definitions were separated from comments, and not going mixed.
  3. It would be better if numbered were not only chapters and sections, but also sentences like in the Bible.

Typographical

The brush-stroke placeholders for logical connectives should be written in "blackboard bold" instead, to make it look more formal.

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Fri 01 of Feb, 2013 02:50 GMT zort from 70.29.36.158 Further improved earlier correction of calque. 37
Tue 29 of Jan, 2013 03:05 GMT zort from 70.29.75.104 Corrected my calque :X 36
Thu 24 of Jan, 2013 03:58 GMT zort from 70.29.75.104 Various comments and changes. 35
Fri 27 of Jan, 2012 04:24 GMT brablonau from 174.136.103.210 clarify Chap. 21, Sec. 2, EBNF intro Rule 6. 34
Fri 04 of Feb, 2011 20:50 GMT alyn.post from 68.35.165.60 Add section on cultural neutrality including one obvious example. 33
Fri 04 of Feb, 2011 20:42 GMT alyn.post from 68.35.165.60 include mailing list material from Luke, errata from myself, and reorganize this page. 32
Fri 04 of Feb, 2011 17:58 GMT alyn.post from 68.35.165.60 discussion elidable terminators 31
Tue 01 of Feb, 2011 23:32 GMT alyn.post from 68.35.165.60 Add links to other CLL errata pages. 30
Sat 15 of Jan, 2011 01:10 GMT zort from 70.26.52.118 Chapter 13 section 15 elision suggestion. 29
Mon 03 of Jan, 2011 02:18 GMT purpleposeidon from 128.120.185.88 28
Sun 02 of Jan, 2011 19:24 GMT zort from 70.26.52.118 Chapter 5 section 14 suggestion. 27
Fri 31 of Dec, 2010 19:03 GMT zort from 70.26.52.118 evidential->veljivma'o? 26
Fri 31 of Dec, 2010 06:31 GMT zort from 70.26.52.118 Added "vocative" to list of english->lojban terms. 25
Fri 31 of Dec, 2010 06:22 GMT zort from 70.26.52.118 Added suggestion for table of all the "pretty little girls school" groupings. 24
Thu 30 of Dec, 2010 00:08 GMT zort from 70.26.52.118 Removed my "separate formal definitions" suggestion. 23
Thu 30 of Dec, 2010 00:04 GMT zort from 70.26.52.118 Added "reinforce optional denpabu" suggestion. 22
Mon 27 of Dec, 2010 20:45 GMT zort from 70.26.56.185 Added "separate chapter with formal definitions" remark. 21
Mon 27 of Dec, 2010 20:21 GMT zort from 70.26.56.185 Added "longer explanations" suggestion, removed HTML tables suggestion, added some lojban translations for terms which are conventionally english. 20
Tue 07 of Dec, 2010 22:51 GMT zort from 70.26.57.190 19
Tue 07 of Dec, 2010 18:30 GMT zort from 70.26.57.190 Added chapter 10 compound tense template suggestion. 18
Mon 29 of Nov, 2010 05:18 GMT zort from 70.29.38.117 Chapter 16 section 9 clarification suggestion. 17
Tue 09 of Nov, 2010 21:47 GMT zort from 70.29.36.10 Organized things a little, added HTML tables suggestion. 16
Sun 07 of Nov, 2010 21:08 GMT zort from 70.29.36.10 Added suggestion for chapter 3. 15
Sun 07 of Nov, 2010 20:09 GMT arj from 178.74.14.177 tengwar 14
Tue 26 of Oct, 2010 06:13 GMT rlpowell from 173.13.139.233 13
Thu 09 of Sep, 2010 09:40 GMT arj from 213.236.208.22 Added comments about illustrations, fixed nesting in the list 12
Wed 14 of Apr, 2010 17:39 GMT paul-donnelly from 71.157.174.185 11
Wed 14 of Apr, 2010 14:16 GMT eyeonus from 132.178.238.2 10
Wed 14 of Apr, 2010 14:03 GMT eyeonus from 132.178.238.2 9
Wed 14 of Apr, 2010 14:03 GMT eyeonus from 132.178.238.2 8
Tue 06 of May, 2008 17:41 GMT skaryzgik from 128.42.219.6 7
Sat 28 of Jan, 2006 07:33 GMT inego from 212.17.3.19 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. --> 1.2.3.4.5. 6
Sat 28 of Jan, 2006 07:32 GMT inego from 212.17.3.19 5
Wed 14 of Sep, 2005 21:45 GMT J from 212.127.211.94 4
Sun 17 of Jul, 2005 20:21 GMT arj from 129.241.222.49 brush-stroke placeholders 3
Thu 03 of Mar, 2005 02:59 GMT J from 212.127.211.94 2
Tue 15 of Feb, 2005 14:21 GMT arj from 129.241.223.130 Moved comment from CLL errata 1
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