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From [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-list/msg09535.html]: ~pp~ * To: lojban-list@lojban.org * Subject: The case of the cow oak: a lexicographical anecdote * From: Arnt Richard Johansen <axx@xxx.xxx> * Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:35:31 +0100 (CET) * Sender: nobody <nobody@digitalkingdom.org> On Jbovlaste, we (that is, Robin :) ) have imported the contents of luj1999.ZIP into these pages: http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/wiki/noralujv%20entries%20with%20no%20definitions?lang=en This word list has, I believe, been assembled programmatically by Nora based on occurrences in the corpus. Now, many of these words are nonce, typos, or simply erroneous registrations of natlang words. But one thing that caught my eye in the first few pages of that list was: {bakcindu} bovine+oak It *could* simply be an error, I thought, but there are many species of oak. Maybe one of these species is the "bovine" one in some language the original author wanted to calque from, possibly Linnean binomials. I searched for "bakcindu" in the lojban.org search interface (which covers, among other things, this mailing list since the dawn of time). But no occurrences were found. I pored over the List of Quercus species on Wikipedia, but nothing seemed remotely cow-like there. I then asked Pierre Abbat, our resident taxonomist, to help out. A few minutes after receiving a response that there was no such thing as cow oak, I started racking my brain about how it could come to be that that word had ended up in the list. Did Nora have access to some texts back in 1999 that wasn't searchable on lojban.org yet? Probably not. So it *had* to be in there somewhere. Then it hit me. Obviously, Nora's script did canonicalization of the lujvo forms. Otherwise, there would be at least some alternative forms in the list. So it was probably registered from a non-canonical form. I tried searching for "baknycindu", and BINGO!: http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9602/msg00128.html That was, apparently, the only usage ever of that word. And in a really bizarre metalinguistic discussion, too (read it!). I feel a bit bad about going to Pierre before thinking through *why* there was no hits on the search form now. -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ Så mange ord som mulig per gram var utvelgelsesgrunnlaget da bøkene skulle plukkes ut. --Erling Kagge: Alene til Sydpolen ~/pp~ And now I discover that there actually __is__ a cow oak. See [http://wordnet.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn2.0?stage=1&word=cow%20oak|Wordnet].
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