History: experimental cultural gismu

Source of version: 2 (current)

;__bavro__ [[ ] Bavaria: x1 reflects Bavarian culture/nationality/languag/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]]''Apparently, (some) Bavarians do not consider themselves ''dotco''.'' ;__beljo__ [[ ] Belgian: x1 reflects Belgian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__belro__ [[ ] Belarusan: x1 reflects Belarusan culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__bolvo__ [[ ] Bolivian: x1 reflects Bolivian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__bulgo__ [[ ] Bulgarian: x1 reflects Bulgarian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__cilno__ [[ ] Chilean: x1 reflects Chilean culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__ctipo__ [[ ] Albanian: x1 reflects Albanian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__danmo__ [[ ] (zo'o') Danish: x1 reflects Danish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ''There already is a gismu "danmo".''(Hence the zo'o.)'' Likewise "danko", "danso", and "dasko" all clash.'' ''No "danko" doesn't.'' ''With "tanko". If it's worthwhile to keep official gismu separated, then it should be worthwhile when we make an unofficial gismu with rafsi and all.'' Please make up a new Wiki page where you explain the standard according to which tanko and danko clash. As far as I know, the only requirement for gismu spearation is to not be different only in the final vowel. --((tsali)) ;__finlo__ [[ ] Finnish: x1 reflects Finnish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: [[[And]] ;__flamo__ [[ ] Flemish: x1 reflects Flemish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__glano__ [[ ] English: x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of England in aspect x2: [[[And]] ;__goslo__ [[ ] Yugoslavian (stidi zo ''nanslovo'' peseba'iku): x1 reflects Yugoslavian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__groto__ [[ ] El Grotto: x1 reflects El Grotto culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: [[[And]] ;__jamro__ [[ ] Aymara: x1 reflects Aymara culture in aspect x2 [[[Adam]] ;__kadro__ [[ ] Ecuadorian: x1 reflects Ecuadorian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__kamro__ [[ ] Welsh: x1 reflects Welsh culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[or ''kimro'']: [[[And]] ;__kasto__ [[ ] Spanish: x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of Spain in aspect x2: [[[And]] ''Why not use spano?'' For same reason as reason for using ''glano'' alongside ''glico''. ((And)) ''It should probably be the other way around: ''kasto'' for the language and ''spano'' for the country. I suspect that using ''kasto'' for the whole of Spain would be too politically incorrect. It would be like using ''glico'' for the whole UK.'' ((xorxes)) ;__kepko__ [[ kek ] Québécois: x1 reflects Québécois culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]]Suggestions for better gismu? I'd like to use ''kebko'' but that has a problem with voiced/unvoiced in the middle. ;__kimro__ [[ ] Welsh: x1 reflects Welsh culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[or ''kamro''] ;__kipro__ [[ kip ] Cypriot: x1 reflects Cypriot culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__kolmo__ [[ ] Colombian: x1 reflects Colombian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__kongo__ [[ ] Congo: x1 reflects Congolese culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: [[[And]] stidi zo kongolo mi'e pier. ;__kribo__ [[ ] Caribbean: x1 reflects Caribbean culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__livjo__ [[ ] Livagian: x1 reflects Livagian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: [[[And]] ''This clashes with "libjo".'' ''That's not a clash. Only if two gismu are the same except for the final vowel do they clash (because they have the same four-letter rafsi). Consonant clashes were checked when generating the original ((gimste)) but are not a rule of the language.'' ''What's Livagian anyway? There are too many nationalities to have gismu for all of them.'' ''These are slang gismu. There's no guarantee there won't be homonymies among them.'' ((And)) ;__lixto__ [[ ] Liechtenstein: x1 reflects Liechtensteinian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__loglo__ [[ ] Loglandian: x1 reflects Loglan/Loglandian/Old Loglan/Institute Loglan/TLI Loglan culture/language in aspect x2 ;__madjo__ [[ ] Hungarian: x1 reflects Hungarian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: [[[And]] ;__malto__ [[ ] Maltese: x1 reflects Maltese culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__monko__ [[ mok ] Monaco: x1 reflects Monegasque culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__mrino__ [[ ] San Marino: x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of San Marino in aspect x2: [[[And]] ;__nizlo__ [[ ] (or ''nuzlo'') New Zealand: x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of New Zealand in aspect x2: [[[And]] ;__norgo__ [[ no'o ] Norwegian: x1 reflects Norwegian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__nuzlo__ [[ ] (or ''nizlo'') New Zealand: x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of New Zealand in aspect x2: [[[And]] ;__pargo__ [[ ] Paraguayan: x1 reflects Paraguayan culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__perno__ [[ ] Peruvian: x1 reflects Peruvian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__polko__ [[ pok ] Polish: x1 reflects Polish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__ranfo__ [[ ] Iranian: x1 reflects Iranian/Persian/Farsi culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]]Suggestions for a better gismu? I picked the __f__ because of "Farsi"; other letters are also imaginable. ;__romno__ [[ ] Romanian: x1 reflects Romanian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__((spero))__ [[ ] Esperantist: x1 reflects Esperantist culture/nationality/language in aspect x2 ;__talno__ [[ ] Italian: x1 reflects Italian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__tcexo__ [[ ] Czech: x1 reflects Czech culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__tcoso__ [[ ] Korean: x1 reflects Korean culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__tunso__ [[ ] Tunisian: x1 reflects Tunisian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__turko__ [[ ] Turkish: x1 reflects Turkish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__valno__ [[ ] Walloon: x1 reflects Walloon culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]]''the part of Belgium that is not Flemish-speaking -- where they speak French or the related Walloon'' ;__vasko__ [[ ] Basque: x1 reflects Basque culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__vatko__ [[ vak va'o ] Vatican: x1 reflects Vatican City culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__venzo__ [[ ] Venezuelan: x1 reflects Venezuelan culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__verdo__ [[ ved ve'o ] Verduria: x1 reflects [http://www.zompist.com/virtuver.htm|Verdurian] culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]]''an invented language and culture'' ;__vetno__ [[ ] Vietnamese: x1 reflects Vietnamese culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__xafko__ [[ xaf ] Afghan: x1 reflects Afghan culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__xasro__ [[ ] Austrian: x1 reflects Austrian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]] ;__xelvo__ [[ ] Swiss: x1 reflects Swiss culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ''This clashes with "kelvo".'' ;__xirlo__ [[ ] Irish: x1 reflects Irish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[[pne]]Or ''sicko'', from ''sicko'o'' (< stici+skoto), which is given for "Irish" [[presumably referring mainly to the language] in the gi'uste? ;__xorvo__ [[ xro ] Croatian: x1 reflects Croatian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__xurgo__ [[ ] Uruguayan: x1 reflects Uruguayan culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ;__zvero__ [[ ] Swedish: x1 reflects Swedish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 see also [http://people.fix.no/arj/lojban/unofficial-gismu.html,] ((tavla fi le tutra pe le terdi)) and ((cultural fu'ivla)) ''Dare I suggest __vopko__ for Volapük __zo'oru'e__? (I don't even know where to go for Klingon... __lingo__? __*tlino__ I think is illegal. __kligo__? I am not being serious here, fear not. Then again, as I said under ((terki)), nonce-((brivla)) make plenty of sense to me) --mi'e mark.'' * How about ''runbo'' (from ''runbau'') for ''conlang''? -- ((Adam)) (Where's Talossa??) OK, people, before this goes any further: some of the cultures above are fictional ("micronations"), made-up countries that people get into primarily for the fun of play-acting at politics. [http://www.talossa.com|Talossa] is a quite well-known instance, which also features a conlang (Provençal meets Albanian and Berber for lunch) whose primary purpose is to use as many diacritics as possible :-) . For El Grotto, see tsali's home page. For Livagian, see [http://wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9504/msg00006.html] . In checking whether Livagian was mentioned elsewhere online, btw, I fell upon the Conlang Ethnologue ([http://members.tripod.com/microtonal/language/conlang/ethnologueam.html|a-m], [http://members.tripod.com/microtonal/language/conlang/ethnologueny.html|n-z]) : a picture-perfect parody of [http://www.ethnologue.com|the SIL Ethnologue]!

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