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http://www.nemorathwald.com/jbocradi/0002_jbocradi_100105.mp3 http://www.nemorathwald.com/jbocradi/0002_jbocradi_100105.ogg Hello, and welcome! This is Lojban Radio! coi fi'i .i ti jbocradi I'm your host ((Matt Arnold)), mi'e mat.arnold known to the Lojban community as Eppcott. poi la .epkat cmene mi le lojbo cecmu This is a computer audio periodical .i ti skami sance karni for speakers and enthusiasts fo lo tavla je se cinri of Lojban, the logical language. po la lojban po'u le logji bangu September 27, 2005. detri li so pi'e reze pi'e renonomu __This episode will feature:__ Pronouncing "o" The Holoalphabetic Sentence Phrasebook Part 2 Lojban As An International Auxiliary Language Thank you to the listeners for the interest and encouragement you've all expressed since the first episode. Of course, with this attention on audio, came a renewed emphasis on pronunciation-related questions. Many of you noticed that when I used one Lojban word in the middle of an English sentence, I tended to Anglicize the pronunciation. For instance, I pronounce the "o" in Lojban with an American English accent whenever I drop it into an English sentence. I can adopt a correct accent when speaking an entire Lojban phrase, but it's extremely difficult to switch between accents from one word to another. One thing we learned was that the pronunciation instructions in Lojban learning materials are interpreted differently by British Lojbanists than by Americans. In England, the words top, bottle, flop, and pot are pronounced with a sound similar to "aw" in law. In America, they are like the "ahh" that you say for the doctor. The book "What Is Lojban" makes it clear that the "a" is pronounced as in father or the American pronunciation of "top" and that "o" is pronounced as in "joke" or "note." CLL says on page 12 it's pronounced as in "dome." This is to keep the vowel sounds as easily distinguishable as possible. So what is the correct way to pronounce "o" in Lojban? Here are some samples. First "o" as it is pronounced in English. Notice that it was rounded into an "oo" sound at the end. That's incorrect. The Lojban "o" is pronounced as in Spanish, as heard here. French speakers also pronounce "o" purely. Here are the sounds back-to-back for comparison. The distinction of a pure vowel is that the mouth holds still while pronouncing it and there is a crisp break in sound instead of a blend. Fortunately Lojban does not use the "o" "u" combination, so the mispronounciation of "o" is unlikely to be misinterpreted. The only important thing in pronouncing Lojban is to keep the vowels from sounding like each other so that you don't speak the wrong word. Beyond that, anything goes. A spectrum of accents is inevitable, and the global diversity should be welcomed. With this in mind, I wanted Lojbanists to record themselves speaking the same sentence. It didn't take long before a short text was found that uses all the sounds in the language. Since Lojban is a phonetic language, this means a text which uses every sound also uses every letter. This is called a holoalphabetic sentence, or pangram. English speakers are familiar with the pangram, "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog." The Lojban pangram which has been chosen is {.o'i mu xagji sofybakni cu zvati le purdi}. This means, "caution: five hungry Soviet cows are in the garden." The following speakers are Theodore Reed, Christopher Zervic, Bruce Webber, Pierre Abbat, Hal Fulton, Adam Raizen, and xorxes. .o'i mu xagji sofybakni cu zvati le purdi __Phrasebook Part 2 - Talking about languages__ In Lojban, the root word "glico" means "x1 pertains to English-speaking culture in aspect x2" and should be interpreted in the broadest possible sense. The English ''language'' is "glibau." "bau" is from "bangu" meaning "language". "glibau" is a compound word. Most language names are spoken as compound words formed in this way. The name of a nation is a compound word including "gu'e" from "gugde" meaning "country." So, French is "le fasygau" and France is "le fasygu'e". Do you speak Lojban? .i xu do se bangu le lojban Do you speak English? .i xu do se bangu le glibau French le fasybau German le dotybau Spanish le sambau Italian le banrtalia Chinese le jugbau Japanese le ponbau Hindi le xinbau Russian le rukybau Arabic le rabybau I don't speak Lojban. mi na se bangu la lojban Where is the phrase in this book? .i ma ju fragi'e sa vanbi le vi cukta Wait, I'll see if I can find it in this book. i .e'o ko denpa .i mi troci co tolcri fi le vi cukta I understand. .i mi jimpe I don't understand .i mi na jimpe Could you talk more slowly please? .i .e'o ko skusno zenba Do you understand me? xu do jimpe fi mi __Lojban As An International Auxiliary Language__ ''This episode we have a segment submitted by Christopher Zervic about Lojban as an international auxiliary language:'' Most constructed languages that are put forth come in two varieties. There are fictional languages such as Klingon and the Tolkien languages, which are adjunct to science fiction and fantasy literature. There are other languages that are put forth as a potential solution to the international language problem, such as Volapuk and Esperanto. In Lojban literature such as ''i la lojban ma (What Is Lojban?)'', Lojban is presented as something a little bit different. An easy way for you to help the Lojban community is to complete this unfinished transcript. Listen to the podcast using one of the links above. Sign up for an account on this Wiki which will allow you to edit it. Type the remainder of the episode, and when you're done please delete this paragraph.
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