History: terki

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A proposed ((fu'ivla)) from Ancient ((Loglan)) days, when fu'ivla could look like ((gismu)). The proposed meaning was ''x1 is a bad programmer'', believe it or not. ''You mean they can't anymore? What about ((mekso))?'' * The point is that you cannot, under the baseline, add any 5-letter brivla to the language. In Pre-((GMR)) Loglan, brivla had the form of gismu or CVC+gismu or CVC+CVC+gismu etc. Any brivla could take any form; lujvo were made by gluing random bits of gismu together, and you couldn't reliably disassemble them. See ((Jenny)). * (This possibly belongs on another page)... I personally don't see any problem with considering as a fu'ivla ''any'' word that isn't a __known__ ((gismu)), a ((lujvo)), a ((cmene)), or a [[compound] ((cmavo)) (and of course, that neither sheds (''((tosmabru))'') nor absorbs (''((slinku'i))'') cmavo). OK, whatever other limitations too (I know fu'ivla can't have a ''__y__'', though I'm not sure why). ''__Basically because it makes the slinku'i test harder, IIRC. --((John Cowan))__'' The point is, anything that isn't anything else can be a fu'ivla, or more generally, a nonce-((brivla)). That's really the point: nonce-words should be usable pretty much anywhere. That's why god created ''za'e'' and ''cei''. Just so long as you say somewhere near the top of your document/discussion ''loi spero (cei seke bangu je kulnu ke'e bela'o .pan. Esperanto .pan.)...'' or whatever. Even ((rafsi)) are okay! You can probably expect people to be able to deduce from the fact that you're using ''spero'' that the rafsi ''sper-'' belongs to it, but if that's a problem, well, you can say ''(zo sper. rafsi zo spero)''. So basically, to me, anything not something else can be a nonce-brivla. Why not? Mathematicians and even casual speakers often redefine the notation for the duration of a paper. --''mi'e mark.'' The equivalent of ''xruki'' at that time was ''turki''. *''Where in the world does this come from?'' ** ''Where does what come from?'' *** ''The source of the word "terki".'' ****I assumed it was from ''turkey''; I'd be disappointed if it wasn't. ((And)) *****I think we'd all be astonished if it wasn't. I have gotten my ((The Loglanist|Loglanist))s out of cold storage, so soon we will know all about ''terki'' and ((Jeeg)) and ((Talen)). --((John Cowan)) ****** Well, we have J&T now. Does terki show up in your old Loglanists? ******* Yes, it does; and no, the etymology isn't explained -- probably considered too obvious.

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