History: zoi

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A really useful quoting mechanism for beginners. ''la'e zoi gy. ''__foo__'' .gy'' can get you a looong way... ---- Um...is "foo" English? Doesn't matter. ''zoi'' can quote __anything__. And the use of ''gy'' as the guard word doesn't necessarily mean anything. You can use anything. Some people like using ''gy'' in order to __hint__ at the English/glico origin of the quoted text... and then got so used to it that they use it for everything else too. But it is never incorrect to use any given morphologically valid Lojban word as a ''zoi'' guard word, ''so long as'' it doesn't occur in the quoted text. ''That reminds me. ((lapoi pelxu ku'o trajynobli)) uses gy as the guard for the translation, which contains the word energy.'' __fixed__ * A long text like that should really use a long and unlikely cmene as the delimiter, like, say, flububyrbabubyrbubz. (They bounce in the water like blubbery tubs.) ** Or even ''zoi glic.'' text ''glic.'' * ''xy'' is a good guard word for English, since it has a non-English phoneme (making it safe for speaking) and the letters are rare in English (pretty safe for writing). ** There is some danger of confusion about English "uh huh". ** To be quite safe, if you like what you're quoting, quote it with ''xrula''. (''zoi xrula freedom xrula'') ** And if you don't like it, quote it with ''xlali''. (''zoi xlali slavery xlali'') *I often use ''.gic.'' or ''.glic.'', especially in writing. In [http://www.kli.org/kli/langs/KLIlojban.html] I used ''.kliz.'' to quote Klingon words. Klingon writing has no ''k'' or ''z'' and Klingon speech has nothing confusable for ''z'', and it is reminiscent of the language-name too. ''--mi'e mark.'' * In written Lojban (such as in the GNOME translation, where you can't avoid the occasional non-Lojban term), I use < > as the delimiters. You can choose to pronounce these however you want. ---- ((foo))

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Thu 12 of Jun, 2014 21:18 GMT mukti from 216.194.27.154	8
Mon 21 of Feb, 2011 00:42 GMT alyn.post from 68.35.166.154 answer so Q&A, add some more bu cases.	7
Mon 21 of Feb, 2011 00:22 GMT alyn.post from 68.35.166.154 fix table formatting.	6
Thu 10 of Feb, 2011 21:53 GMT alyn.post from 173.10.243.253 Add additional zoi cases.	5
Thu 10 of Feb, 2011 17:25 GMT alyn.post from 173.10.243.253 zoi is not the only word in selma'o ZOI, la'o is also there.	4
Wed 09 of Feb, 2011 21:14 GMT alyn.post from 68.35.165.60 basic chart of ungrammatical uses of zoi	3
Wed 09 of Feb, 2011 18:53 GMT alyn.post from 68.35.165.60 clean up page up to Magic Words page standard.	2
Fri 30 of Nov, 2001 12:31 GMT admin from admin created from phpwiki import	1

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