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Posted by stevo on Mon 16 of Jun, 2008 06:02 GMT posts: 381

In a message dated 5/28/2008 04:22:43 AM Central Daylight Time,
ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes:

> > Can it be a fact if it hasn't happened yet?
> >
> > stevo
> >
> Maybe you're hung up over my use of the word "fact". Substitute
> "claim", if you wish. "The sun will rise to tomorrow" is making an
> assertion that has a definite truth value, (true or false), but we
> can't necessarily determine the truth value until (possible) the day
> after tomorrow. It's like Gödel's uncertainty principal.
>
> --gejyspa
>

Okay, that works.

stevo </HTML>

Posted by stevo on Mon 16 of Jun, 2008 06:03 GMT posts: 381

In a message dated 5/27/2008 04:22:38 AM Central Daylight Time,
ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes:

> Remember, the main bridi had no
> tense associated with it, so it's simply asserting a fact, not
> necessarily one that has come to fruition yet.
>
> gejyspa

Can it be a fact if it hasn't happened yet?

stevo
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On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 9:59 AM, <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> In a message dated 5/27/2008 04:22:38 AM Central Daylight Time,
> ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes:
>
>
> Remember, the main bridi had no
> tense associated with it, so it's simply asserting a fact, not
> necessarily one that has come to fruition yet.
>
> gejyspa
>
> Can it be a fact if it hasn't happened yet?
>
> stevo
>
Maybe you're hung up over my use of the word "fact". Substitute
"claim", if you wish. "The sun will rise to tomorrow" is making an
assertion that has a definite truth value, (true or false), but we
can't necessarily determine the truth value until (possible) the day
after tomorrow. It's like Gödel's uncertainty principal.

--gejyspa

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