if Posted by stevo on Mon 20 of Apr, 2009 01:57 GMT posts: 381 What are the different ways of translating "if" into "Lojban"? stevo
Posted by rlpowell on Mon 20 of Apr, 2009 03:53 GMT posts: 14214 On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 09:56:54PM -0400, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > What are the different ways of translating "if" into "Lojban"? Depends on the if, but basically: gasnu krinu nibli se jalge mukti and their cmavo equivalents. ja nai/na ja and friends, it is worth noting, are *NOT* "if" in the English sense. di'a mi klama .i se ri'a bo do klama is "If I go, you'll go." di'a mi klama .i na ja do klama is true ... umm, sec; have to do the truth tables... T T F T T T F F F F F T T T T F F T F T states that either we both go, or neither of us go, or only you go. It says thing about why you go, which is what the English "if" usually means. In other words, if I go, but you don't "di'a mi klama .i na ja do klama" is false, I was wrong, and that's it, we're done. But with "di'a mi klama .i se ri'a bo do klama", if I go, and you haven't gone yet, you should probably start looking out for kidnappers or something, because I said that there was a causal connection between the two events. -Robin -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" — http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.
Posted by PierreAbbat on Mon 20 of Apr, 2009 05:18 GMT posts: 324 On Sunday 19 April 2009 23:52:22 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > di'a mi klama .i se ri'a bo do klama > > is "If I go, you'll go." > > di'a mi klama .i na ja do klama You mean "da'i", right? Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.
Posted by rlpowell on Mon 20 of Apr, 2009 05:25 GMT posts: 14214 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 01:17:06AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday 19 April 2009 23:52:22 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > di'a mi klama .i se ri'a bo do klama > > > > is "If I go, you'll go." > > > > di'a mi klama .i na ja do klama > > You mean "da'i", right? Oh! Yes, of course. -Robin -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" — http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.
