History: BPFK Section: Numeric Tense

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Relevant prior discussions

re'u

  • http://nuzban.wiw.org/archive/9612/msg00006.html
    • Summary: re'u is semantically related to the ZAhO series, in that it specifies a phase of the event. (This discussion is suggestive of calling re'u an aspect, and not a tense.)
  • re'u (Lojban wiki page)
    • Summary: za'u re'u means "not for the first time", so it could be used for some senses of "again".

roi

  • http://www.lojban.org/lists/jboske/msg00218.html
    • Summary: ROI is a sumti tcita, too. The sumti specifies which time interval the repetitions occur.

 

Proposed Definitions And Examples

 

Proposed Definition of re'u

 

re'u (ROI)
Ordinal tense. Converts a number to an objectively quantified ordinal tense interval modifier, indicating that the event takes place for the n-th time. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval in which the repetitions occur.
    • Keywords: for the nth time.

 

Examples of re'u Usage

.i ro da poi se mrilu fu le mriciste zo'u mi pa po'o re'u te benji da

I receive each message through the mailing system only once.

.i mi re re'u troci lo nu co'a sipna

For the second time, I try to fall asleep.

Proposed Definition of roi

 

roi (ROI)
Quantified tense. Converts a number to an objectively quantified tense interval modifier, indicating that the event takes place n times. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval in which the repetitions occur.
    • Keywords: times. n times.

 

Examples of roi Usage

curmi le nu pilno le su'ore dacti paroi le jufra

It allows using multiple objects once per sentence.

mi so'iroi citka lo xarju

I eat pork many times.

Notes

By convention, tagged sumti without quantification (the new definition of lo dispenses with the notion of implicit quantification) are taken to refer to single instances. E.g. mu roi lo cacra is taken to mean "five times per hour".

Impact

The meaning of tagged sumti with ROI, previously undescribed, has been explicitly laid out.


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Thu 21 of Aug., 2014 10:15 GMT Ilmen 95.210.209.219   28
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Thu 21 of Aug., 2014 10:15 GMT Ilmen 95.210.209.219 Fixing the proposed formal definition. 24 - 27 v  s
Sun 08 of June, 2014 19:13 GMT mukti 216.194.27.154   23 v  s
Sat 07 of June, 2014 14:05 GMT Ilmen 37.1.168.197 Minor formatting 22 v  s
Sat 31 of May, 2014 18:44 GMT selpa'i 93.220.115.89 Added poll 20 - 21 v  s
Fri 30 of May, 2014 12:03 GMT selpa'i 93.220.108.197 added proposed tag for roi 15 - 19 v  s
Thu 23 of Dec., 2010 11:18 GMT lindarthebard 166.135.205.170   14 v  s
Wed 10 of Nov., 2010 23:06 GMT rlpowell 173.13.139.234   13 v  s
Tue 07 of Sep., 2010 08:11 GMT eyeonus 96.18.103.113   12 v  s
Tue 07 of Sep., 2010 07:10 GMT eyeonus 96.18.103.113   11 v  s
Sun 03 of Feb., 2008 16:08 GMT arj 84.215.32.169 Section completed, barring objections 10 v  s
Sun 03 of June, 2007 22:12 GMT arj 129.241.210.194 definitions and examples 8 - 9 v  s
Tue 10 of Apr., 2007 21:20 GMT arj 129.241.210.123 More notes 7 v  s
Tue 10 of Apr., 2007 19:56 GMT arj 129.241.210.123   6 v  s
Sat 31 of Mar., 2007 17:25 GMT arj 129.241.210.123   5 v  s
Fri 30 of Mar., 2007 18:09 GMT arj 129.241.210.123   4 v  s
Fri 20 of Jan., 2006 22:31 GMT arj 129.241.93.197 Removed all cmavo compounds because they are compositional. 3 v  s
Wed 17 of Nov., 2004 02:41 GMT rlpowell 64.81.49.171   2 v  s
Fri 30 of July, 2004 16:08 GMT arj 195.204.8.166   1 v  s