Lojban In General

Posted by JboDalto on Fri 07 of Mar, 2008 05:29 GMT posts: 12

Here is the beginning of my outline, to see if it makes sense for the order of the sections. Then there are some example pages, although in the actual document the images would look far more professional.

Liam Dalton

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Posted by spheniscine on Fri 07 of Mar, 2008 12:39 GMT posts: 10

Why are some words in the Lojban text capitalized? They aren't supposed to
be.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Liam Dalton <iamdalto@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Here is the beginning of my outline, to see if it makes sense for the
> order of the sections. Then there are some example pages, although in the
> actual document the images would look far more professional.
>
> Liam Dalton
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>

On 3/7/08, Liam Dalton <iamdalto@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here is the beginning of my outline, to see if it makes sense for the order
> of the sections. Then there are some example pages, although in the actual
> document the images would look far more professional.

The order of the outline seems reasonable, although one could argue
about details. For example, {la'e} and {tu'a} are the only two LAhEs
that are frequently used, all the others are never or hardly ever used.
Do they really need to be introduced at the same stage as {la'e} and
{tu'a}?

As for the sample, there is this claim about {la'e}: "It is used to talk
about titles and other such labels." But that's backwards, it is used
to talk about the labeled or titled thing, not about the labels and titles
themselves. And in fact, its most frequent use is in {la'e di'u}, where
{di'u} is not a label or a title but an expression, and {la'e di'u} is used
to talk not about the expression but about what is expressed by the
expression.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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Posted by PierreAbbat on Fri 07 of Mar, 2008 15:53 GMT posts: 324

On Friday 07 March 2008 08:40, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> The order of the outline seems reasonable, although one could argue
> about details. For example, {la'e} and {tu'a} are the only two LAhEs
> that are frequently used, all the others are never or hardly ever used.
> Do they really need to be introduced at the same stage as {la'e} and
> {tu'a}?

I think {na'ebo} should be introduced along with {la'e} and {tu'a}, and the
rest left for later.

I suggest mentioning the parts of speech under cmavo, such as conjunctions,
pronouns, tense markers, and terminators. The average English speaker is
going to be lost with names like JOI and JA for parts of speech, but he'll
have heard of conjunctions. Terminators are a part of speech that I haven't
heard of except in Loglanic languages, and should be mentioned as a class, as
each of their selma'o has only one cmavo.

I find it easier to learn a language from a story, or from hearing people
talk, than from a grammar book. Could you write a book that starts with, say,
Alice, and teaches from the text, as a companion to this book?

Pierre

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