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    Posted by Leon on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:50 GMT posts: 9

    I thought it would be cool to share some things I like to use on the web
    with you guys. Maybe the community can make use of these thing too?

    http://lang-8.com/
    This is a social networking site for language enthusiasts. Maybe a more
    experienced Lojban speaker could admin a group there? You may have to
    request Lojban be added to the language list (Esperanto is there).

    http://www.google.com/alerts
    Know instantly when something about Lojban is mentioned on the web.

    http://www.surveymonkey.com/
    Ever wanted to survey your Lojban audience? This site enables you to create
    professional online surveys quickly and easily. You can survey 100 people
    for free, or just keep posting the same survey if the response is huge ;)

    http://counter.li.org/
    This is a site to register as a linux user and receive a nice little
    graphic+number at the end which you can include as a forum signature or
    whatever. We could attempt something similar for Lojban and help spread the
    word.

    ...and not really related to this post...
    Lojban day!
    Is there one? It could generate some publicity somewhere out there :-D

    So if you have any cool stuff you want to share, hit reply.

    BR,
    Leon.

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    Posted by Stela Selckiku on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:50 GMT

    On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Leon <leon.san.email@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > http://lang-8.com/
    > This is a social networking site for language enthusiasts. Maybe a more
    > experienced Lojban speaker could admin a group there? You may have to
    > request Lojban be added to the language list (Esperanto is there).


    That'd be great, if we can get added... but usually it's a struggle
    for us (or Klingon, or Toki Pona) to get in, even to those places that
    have Esperanto. (I can't say that's necessarily unfair-- we're not
    really in E-o's league, population-wise.)


    > http://www.google.com/alerts
    > Know instantly when something about Lojban is mentioned on the web.


    Oh hey thanks for reminding me, my Lojban alert got lost a long time
    ago. Anything good I missed? I remember it having something from "la
    laxma'i spaji spaji" every once in a while, not much else.


    > ...and not really related to this post...
    > Lojban day!
    > Is there one? It could generate some publicity somewhere out there :-D


    Hmm, not a bad idea. What day would it be, though? Are there any
    important dates in Lojbanic history?


    ki'e ly mi gleki lo nu do sarji
    thanks L i'm glad you're supporting

    .i .ia le jbopre cu gunma snada
    i do believe the lojbanists succeed together

    mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o


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    Posted by PierreAbbat on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:50 GMT posts: 324

    On Friday 27 November 2009 14:21:34 Stela Selckiku wrote:
    > That'd be great, if we can get added... but usually it's a struggle
    > for us (or Klingon, or Toki Pona) to get in, even to those places that
    > have Esperanto. (I can't say that's necessarily unfair-- we're not
    > really in E-o's league, population-wise.)

    It looks like a language has to have native speakers to be included, though I
    see two exceptions, Latin (which may have some current native speakers) and
    Slavic (there are several Slavic languages listed, so maybe they mean OCS?).
    So maybe ca le nu lo verclijbo cu makcu kei ba jmina.

    mu'omi'e .pier.

    --
    .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
    .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
    .icu'u la ma'atman.


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    Posted by baisong on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:55 GMT posts: 99 United States

    i find google spreadsheets more useful than surveymonkey-- they dont
    limit responses and you can use spreadsheet functions to custom query
    and analyze results

    mu'o mi'e ku'us

    On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 06:10, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

    > On Friday 27 November 2009 14:21:34 Stela Selckiku wrote:
    >> That'd be great, if we can get added... but usually it's a struggle
    >> for us (or Klingon, or Toki Pona) to get in, even to those places that
    >> have Esperanto.  (I can't say that's necessarily unfair-- we're not
    >> really in E-o's league, population-wise.)
    >
    > It looks like a language has to have native speakers to be included, though I
    > see two exceptions, Latin (which may have some current native speakers) and
    > Slavic (there are several Slavic languages listed, so maybe they mean OCS?).
    > So maybe ca le nu lo verclijbo cu makcu kei ba jmina.
    >
    > mu'omi'e .pier.
    >
    > --
    > .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
    > .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
    > .icu'u la ma'atman.
    >
    >
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    > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.
    >
    >


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    Posted by Steven Lytle on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:55 GMT

    Perhaps a liturgical language with a long history qualifies as well as
    languages with native speakers.

    stevo

    On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:


    > On Friday 27 November 2009 14:21:34 Stela Selckiku wrote:
    > > That'd be great, if we can get added... but usually it's a struggle
    > > for us (or Klingon, or Toki Pona) to get in, even to those places that
    > > have Esperanto. (I can't say that's necessarily unfair-- we're not
    > > really in E-o's league, population-wise.)
    >
    > It looks like a language has to have native speakers to be included, though
    > I
    > see two exceptions, Latin (which may have some current native speakers) and
    > Slavic (there are several Slavic languages listed, so maybe they mean
    > OCS?).
    > So maybe ca le nu lo verclijbo cu makcu kei ba jmina.
    >
    > mu'omi'e .pier.
    >
    > --
    > .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
    > .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
    > .icu'u la ma'atman.
    >
    >
    > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org
    > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if
    > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.
    >
    >

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    Posted by PierreAbbat on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:55 GMT posts: 324

    On Friday 27 November 2009 21:51:21 Steven Lytle wrote:
    > Perhaps a liturgical language with a long history qualifies as well as
    > languages with native speakers.

    You could post something and tag its language as "other". The list doesn't
    include anywhere near the thousands of languages spoken today.

    Pierre
    --
    Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.


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    Posted by remod on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:55 GMT posts: 39

    On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Steven Lytle <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:

    > Perhaps a liturgical language with a long history qualifies as well as
    > languages with native speakers.
    >
    > Latin is the current official language of the State of Vatican, so beign
    the official language of a State qualifies for lang-8.
    Now, if we could get some official acknowledgement of Lojbanistan ...

    remod

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    Posted by baisong on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:55 GMT posts: 99 United States

    I propose Antarctica's unofficial language be deemed Lojban. After
    all, what could be more logical than Antarctica? Only Lojban!

    ...actually, I wonder if anyone's found anything similar to iTalki (or
    Mixxer) that's *open source* or allows volunteer addition/translation
    for language support? That would make quick work of this.

    On the theme of sharing tools, www.smart.fm seems like a nifty
    flash-card social website; and they allow OpenID login! w00t. If only
    they allowed parley imports...

    mu'o mi'e ku'us

    On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 15:43, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    > On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Steven Lytle <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> Perhaps a liturgical language with a long history qualifies as well as
    >> languages with native speakers.
    >
    > Latin is the current official language of the State of Vatican, so beign the
    > official language of a State qualifies for lang-8.
    > Now, if we could get some official acknowledgement of Lojbanistan ...
    >
    > remod
    >


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    Posted by baisong on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:55 GMT posts: 99 United States

    haha, freudian slip. I meant "lang-8" but said "italki or mixxer" =p

    On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 16:19, Oren <get.oren@gmail.com> wrote:
    > I propose Antarctica's unofficial language be deemed Lojban. After
    > all, what could be more logical than Antarctica? Only Lojban!
    >
    > ...actually, I wonder if anyone's found anything similar to iTalki (or
    > Mixxer) that's *open source* or allows volunteer addition/translation
    > for language support? That would make quick work of this.
    >
    > On the theme of sharing tools, www.smart.fm seems like a nifty
    > flash-card social website; and they allow OpenID login! w00t. If only
    > they allowed parley imports...
    >
    > mu'o mi'e ku'us
    >
    > On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 15:43, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Steven Lytle <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Perhaps a liturgical language with a long history qualifies as well as
    >>> languages with native speakers.
    >>
    >> Latin is the current official language of the State of Vatican, so beign the
    >> official language of a State qualifies for lang-8.
    >> Now, if we could get some official acknowledgement of Lojbanistan ...
    >>
    >> remod
    >>
    >


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    Posted by Leon on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:55 GMT posts: 9

    I just signed up for smart.fm. It looks pretty nifty. There are a couple of
    Lojban featured items there already :-)


    > On the theme of sharing tools, www.smart.fm seems like a nifty
    > flash-card social website;
    >

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    Posted by Arran on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:55 GMT

    I sent Lang-8 a request for lojban to be put on it a while ago.. They
    responded on July 15th with:
    Hello Arran,

    Thank you for using Lang-8.
    I'm Yangyang.

    Thank you for your suggestion, we will add Lojban in future.


    Thank you very much,

    Yangyang
    Lang-8 staff

    Send more requests..

    Also regarding Smart.fm, once I find time to take my 700 word list across I
    might use it too.

    On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Leon <leon.san.email@gmail.com> wrote:

    > I just signed up for smart.fm. It looks pretty nifty. There are a couple
    > of Lojban featured items there already :-)
    >
    >
    >
    >> On the theme of sharing tools, www.smart.fm seems like a nifty
    >> flash-card social website;
    >>
    >

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    Posted by Stela Selckiku on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:55 GMT

    On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Oren <get.oren@gmail.com> wrote:
    > I propose Antarctica's unofficial language be deemed Lojban. After
    > all, what could be more logical than Antarctica? Only Lojban!


    .ie .i mi ze'u zo'o cu'i pensi lo simsa .i le za'e zi'opre cu pilno
    .ei le re dzipo rafsi .i ji'a le dzipo cu mutce ti'e lo ka tolzdi kei
    se mu'i lo nu jbocli
    agreed. i've long (half seriously) thought something similar. the
    antarcticans should use the two antarctic rafsi. also antartica is, i
    hear, very boring, which is a reason to learn lojban! :-)


    > On the theme of sharing tools, www.smart.fm seems like a nifty
    > flash-card social website; and they allow OpenID login! w00t. If only
    > they allowed parley imports...


    .ie, I've recently started studying Spanish on smart.fm and it works
    well. I haven't tried making a lesson yet, but I guess you can add
    audio and everything? What kinds of lessons should we make?


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    Posted by Daniel Brockman on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:55 GMT

    > .ie .i mi ze'u zo'o cu'i pensi lo simsa .i le za'e zi'opre cu pilno
    > .ei le re dzipo rafsi .i ji'a le dzipo cu mutce ti'e lo ka tolzdi kei
    > se mu'i lo nu jbocli
    > agreed.  i've long (half seriously) thought something similar.  the
    > antarcticans should use the two antarctic rafsi.  also antartica is, i
    > hear, very boring, which is a reason to learn lojban! :-)

    I read that as "I hear Antarcticans are very bored, and so would want
    to learn Lojban." :-)

    --
    Daniel Brockman
    daniel@gointeractive.se


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    Posted by lagejyspa on Mon 07 of Dec, 2009 08:55 GMT posts: 350

    On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Daniel Brockman <dbrockman@gmail.com>wrote:

    > > .ie .i mi ze'u zo'o cu'i pensi lo simsa .i le za'e zi'opre cu pilno
    > > .ei le re dzipo rafsi .i ji'a le dzipo cu mutce ti'e lo ka tolzdi kei
    > > se mu'i lo nu jbocli
    > > agreed. i've long (half seriously) thought something similar. the
    > > antarcticans should use the two antarctic rafsi. also antartica is, i
    > > hear, very boring, which is a reason to learn lojban! :-)
    >
    > I read that as "I hear Antarcticans are very bored, and so would want
    > to learn Lojban." :-)
    >
    >
    That would be possible since there is no ce'u in the "lo ka tolzdi" term,
    but of course, we usually asssume it to be in the x1 position.
    --gy

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