History: BPFK Community Work

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This page is for anyone in the Lojban community who wants to help
the BPFK with the initial language description task.

The Goal


The whole goal here is to replace the definitions with something
that (1) uses complete English sentences and (2) might be useful to
somone who has never seen them before (although please don't include
descriptions of things common to many words; do not define
"attitudinal", for example).

We'd also like to get the various piece of information about the
words seperated out for future use, and get some examples, but those
are somewhat secondary goals.

The Procedure


Here's what you do:

  • Log in to your account here; register if necessary (it's in the upper right)
  • Make sure your email here is valid; see the preferences page
  • Ignore anything else you've ever heard about BPFK procedures
  • Pick a section that isn't green on the BPFK Sections page. Pick a cmavo in that section that looks unfinished. Do the following:
    • Grab your CLL, or use one of the online versions. Figure out what the cmavo means. Write it down. See the templates below.
      • Do NOT describe its category in general; it is sufficient to say that something is "an attitudinal"; you do not need to talk about how attitudinals in general work at all.
      • Do describe how it is different from other members of its category.
    • Find (or, if you really can't find any, make) examples of usage of the cmavo; use the Corpora page for this.
    • Search the mailing list, or anything else that seems relevant, for debate about the nature of the cmavo or its category. Make notes of any you find, seperate from the body of the definition.

Dealing With Issues


At any stage along the way, if you see any problem (contradictions, arguments, confusions, whatever) about either the cmavo itself or the general category it belongs to, make sure they are noted down, either in the Issues section for the cmavo or the Issues section (make one if necessary) for the whole page.

If you get stuck or confused, please post to the BPFK group.

Cross-References


Please put {...} around any cross-references to other Lojban words,
like {broda}. This will not get marked up, but it will save us a lot
of trouble later. Basically, put {...} anywhere you would want a
hyperlink to another entry to appear if this was an online
dictionary.

Section Colours


For the colors, Blue means "completed but not voted on"; you should
wark any section that appears finished blue. Green means "completed
and voted on"; please do not touch those!

Go For It!


When editing the wiki, DO NOT WORRY about making mistakes or anything like that. You are totally free to edit as you see fit. This very much includes fixing other people's mistakes. Edit as you see fit. Do not discuss the page on the page; if there's something that needs discussion, post to the BPFK group. If a page is locked, let the BPFK group know. We have people watching every edit; if there's a problem, we'll mail you.

But Be Careful About Concurrent Edits


We've had at least one case so far of one person entirely destroying
another person's cmavo definition changes. Therefore, please:

  • If the site says "someone else edited this since you started", or something like that, DO NOT SAVE. Copy the text somewhere else, cancel, RELOAD, and try again.
  • Make lots of small, quick changes.
  • RELOAD before you start editing.

Templates


A finished cmavo looks something like this:

cmavo: xxx (SELMAHO)

Proposed Definition

Fun-times! Used to express fun-ness.

Tag

Awesome attitudinal.

See Also

  • {XYY}
  • {XYZ}
  • {GISMU}

Proposed Keywords

  • whatever
  • shyeah-right!

Usage Examples

xxx mi klama
"Whatever! I'm going."

Notes

This cmavo is different from {XYY}, because {XYY} allows for the piano-eating duties to be split.

Issues

This cmavo is completely non-standard, but very common in actual usage. We could resolve this by allowing it, or not.

...

General Section Issues


All attitudinal modifiers are weird.


The raw markup for that is this:

cmavo: xxx (SELMAHO)

Proposed Definition

Fun-times! Used to express fun-ness.

Tag

Awesome attitudinal.

See Also

  • {XYY}
  • {XYZ}
  • {GISMU}

Proposed Keywords

  • whatever
  • shyeah-right!

Usage Examples

xxx mi klama
"Whatever! I'm going."

Notes

This cmavo is different from {XYY}, because {XYY} allows for the piano-eating duties to be split.

Issues

This cmavo is completely non-standard, but very common
in actual usage. We could resolve this by allowing it, or not.

...

General Section Issues


All attitudinal modifiers are weird.
~/pp~

History

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Tue 07 of Sep, 2010 08:18 GMT eyeonus from 96.18.103.113 Placing the entries for each cmavo in it's own BOX makes them easier to distinguish IMO. Added BOX code to "raw markup". 22
Sat 19 of Jun, 2010 19:14 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.66.169 21
Sat 19 of Jun, 2010 18:10 GMT admin from 64.81.66.189 20
Wed 09 of Jun, 2010 10:18 GMT RossOgilvie from 220.239.170.184 typo fix: wark -> mark 19
Sat 01 of May, 2010 21:31 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.66.169 18
Sat 01 of May, 2010 21:01 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.66.169 17
Sat 01 of May, 2010 20:59 GMT rlpowell from 12.238.140.253 Box Plugin modified by editor. 16
Sat 01 of May, 2010 20:57 GMT rlpowell from 12.238.140.253 Box Plugin modified by editor. 15
Sat 01 of May, 2010 20:57 GMT rlpowell from 12.238.140.253 Box Plugin modified by editor. 14
Sat 01 of May, 2010 20:55 GMT rlpowell from 12.238.140.253 Box Plugin modified by editor. 13
Fri 16 of Apr, 2010 00:08 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.66.169 12
Thu 15 of Apr, 2010 20:44 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.66.169 11
Wed 14 of Apr, 2010 21:42 GMT Eimi from 128.252.20.177 Finish work on documenting Issues/Notes split. 10
Wed 14 of Apr, 2010 21:39 GMT Eimi from 128.252.20.177 9
Wed 14 of Apr, 2010 12:11 GMT timonator from 79.228.87.50 put the "see also" part of the template into the right level. 8
Wed 14 of Apr, 2010 07:24 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.66.169 7
Wed 14 of Apr, 2010 07:00 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.66.169 6
Wed 14 of Apr, 2010 00:10 GMT symuyn from 150.135.210.16 Added an annoying line break and removed a few in the code. 5
Tue 13 of Apr, 2010 23:43 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.66.169 4
Tue 13 of Apr, 2010 06:59 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.66.169 3
Tue 13 of Apr, 2010 06:58 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.66.169 2
Tue 13 of Apr, 2010 06:56 GMT rlpowell from 64.81.66.169 1
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