History: BPFK Section: Termsets

Source of version: 10 (current)

! Proposed Definitions And Examples {BOX()} !! ce'e (CEhE) !!! Proposed Definition This word is placed between terms (sumti or tagged sumti) which are to be put together in a termset. For the purposes of quantification, terms that are grouped into a termset are understood to have equal scope. !!! Proposed Keywords * termset sumti connector !!! Usage Examples ;mi klama le zarci ce'e le briju pe'e je le zdani ce'e le ckule: I go to the market from the office and to the house from the school. (CLL, 14.11.2) ;ci gerku ce'e re nanmu cu batci: Three dogs bite each of the two men (ie 3 dogs, 2 men, six bites) (CLL, 16.7.5) {BOX} %%% %%% %%% {BOX()} !! nu'i (NUhI) !!! Proposed Definition Starts a forethought termset. The terminator for {nu'i} is {nu'u}, which is often elidable. To make a logical connection in a forethought termset, use a gek, with the gek just after the {nu'i}, and an extra {nu'u} just before the gik. !!! Proposed Keywords * forethought termset !!! Usage Examples ;nu'i ci gerku re nanmu [nu'u] cu batci: Three dogs bite each of the two men (ie 3 dogs, 2 men, six bites) (CLL, 16.7.5) ;mi klama nu'i ge le zarci le briju nu'u gi le zdani le ckule [nu'u]: I go both to the market from the office and to the house from the school. (CLL, 14.11.7) ;abu troci le nu vreta gi'e punji nu'ige lo cidni le lamji be le vorme gi le drata birka le sruri be le stedu: She tried the effect of lying down with one elbow against the door, and the other arm curled round her head. (Translation of a sentence from Alice in Wonderland) ;nu'i ge'i li no pi mu fo li no gi li no fo li pa dilcu fe li pa li re: Does 0.5 remainder 0 or 0 remainder 1 equal 1 divided by 2? {BOX} %%% %%% %%% {BOX()} !! nu'u (NUhU) !!! Proposed Definition End forethought termset. Usually elidable except when sumti follow the termset. It also goes before the {gi} in forethought termset logical connection. !!! Proposed Keywords * termset terminator !!! Usage Examples ;nu'i ge ko mi caku gi mi ko baku nu'u spuda: Answer me now and be answered by me later! (colloq. I asked first!) ;la .djan. fa'u la .frank. cusku nu'i bau la .lojban. nu'u fa'u bai la .djordj. [nu'u]: John and Frank speak in Lojban and under George's compulsion, respectively. ;zbasu nu'i da de nu'u pe'e je nu'i di do: I build this out of that and blah out of you (IRC Logs 16 Dec 2004 12:19:57 <rlpowell>) {BOX} %%% %%% %%% {BOX()} !! pe'e (PEhE) !!! Proposed Definition Marks the following connective (either JA or JOI?) as the connector of the containing termset. Goes between sets of "ce'e"-joined sumti. !!! Proposed Keywords * termset connective !!! Usage Examples ;mi pe'e ja do ce'e le zarci cu klama le briju:I go to the office and/or you go to the market from the office. ;mi djica ta'e ce'e tu'a lo ckafi pe'e je ta'e nai ce'e lo tcati:I normally want coffee, occasionally tea. {BOX} ! Notes * [https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/xYiThLwhjeQ/discussion|Termsets and equal scope.] Xorxes raises an issue about termsets and exact numbers, and makes the point that 'equals scope' issues are better solved with a group construction like {ro lo ci gerku}. * The longest use of a termset goes to this [http://www.lojban.org/tiki/la%20tcidu%20bende|tiki page], but I think that the use is wrong. ;la tsani ce'e la selpa'i ce'e la teryrei ce'e la vensa ce'e la mekso ce'e la latro pe'e je lo fraso ce'e lo dotco ce'e lo glico ce'e lo xebro ce'e lo rusko ce'e lo glico cu selbau ! Impact No changes.