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((pc))'s definition: Nalgol is the language "to improve a minor point in ((Loglan))" by totally redoing a mass of major design features. The original one was, I think, Jim Carter's back in the late 70s. ''(It was. --((John Cowan)))'' We haven't had occasion to mention this typical constructed language phenomenon in Lojban much since the base-lining (and before it was part of the process), but recently there seems to have been a spate of ever more aggressive cases which now seem to call the word back into use. Or should we shift to Nabjol? I think not; the chance to shoot at the languages of the 60s and 70s is still too good to pass by. ''What were Jim Carter's original proposals?'' * Way too many to list here: a steady evolution Loglan > Nalgol > Djimbraon > -gzn !gvr > ((Gua\spi)). ** One that was adopted in both Lojban and ((Loglan)) is COI/DOI + selbri, which ((the Founders)) still sometimes call a "Carter vocative". ''Come on, no fair tempting us like that! Give at least a representative sample of some that were rejected.'' * Okay. The elimination of the difference between gismu and rafsi (which entails the elimination of the difference between non-pe'a tanru and lujvo). ** So far, so good. Maybe I should switch to ((Gua\spi)). *** Shhhhh! *** Go ahead - Jim needs someone to talk to! (I think he's the only guaspist around)
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