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Attitudionals in a "la" clause

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coi rodo

If the selbri after "la" contains an attitudional, is it concerned as
a part of a name, or as an attitude of a speaker? Example:

{la oi cortu cu klama}

Is it a claim about the person named "oi cortu" or a claim about the
person named "cortu", and expression of a pain that speaker feels
while saying this?

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On 7/10/08, Cyril Slobin <cyril@slobin.pp.ru> wrote:
> coi rodo
>
> If the selbri after "la" contains an attitudional, is it concerned as
> a part of a name, or as an attitude of a speaker? Example:
>
> {la oi cortu cu klama}
>
> Is it a claim about the person named "oi cortu" or a claim about the
> person named "cortu", and expression of a pain that speaker feels
> while saying this?

That {oi} is not contained by the selbri, it attaches to the gadri, so there
can't be any doubt in that case that it is not part of the name. If you had
{la cortu oi} there might be some question, but I think it's also an
attachment to the name and not a part of it. If you wanted it as part of
the name you need to do something like {la oi zei cortu}.

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