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History: BPFK Section: lerfu
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The selma'o BY2 is comprised principally of letterals representing consonants and contains the following cmavo: ||by|cy|dy|fy|gy|jy|ky|ly|my|ny|py|ry|sy|ty|vy|xy|.y'y|zy|| The selma'o BY* is comprised of vowel letterals, punctuation, and other "oddball" letterals, the common theme being that they're all constructed with the lerfu-forming cmavo bu: ||.abu|denpa bu|.ebu|.ibu|joibu|.obu|slaka bu|.ubu|.uibu|.ybu|zo'obu|| The purpose of these cmavo, as with all lerfu, is to enable the spelling of words and discussion referring to written characters, in which case you must either encase it in ''la'e lu __...__ li'u'', or prefix it with ''me'o''. Without this quoting, the lerfu simply acts as a prosumti, or a mekso variable. !!Lojbanic Standard Roman Orthography Lerfu These are used to represent symbols used in the writing of lojban. The following are lerfu for which the definition and keyword are obvious: ||.abu|by|cy|dy|.ebu|fy|gy|.ibu|jy|ky|ly|my|ny|.obu|py|ry|sy|ty|.ubu|vy|xy|.ybu|zy .y'y|| There are two more which have slightly more complex keywords: ||denpa bu|BY*|__pause symbol__ | letteral: Lojban "." character|| ||slaka bu|BY*|__comma symbol__ | letteral: Lojban "," character|| It should be noted that the current keyword for slaka bu is "close-comma", but I don't see a need for anything more than "comma" unless someone can demonstrate a "far-comma" or an "open-comma" that's likely to cause confusion. This was terminology inherited from TLI Loglan, and is no longer needed. ''denpa bu'' should have "__period symbol__" added as a keyword to help those who might not recognize it as a "pause". !!Other Lerfu These are miscellaneous lerfu. I question their usefulness as official cmavo, even as examples, but do not suggest their removal. ||joibu|BY*|__&__|letteral: ampersand character; especially used in standing for a mixed connective|| ||.uibu|BY*|__happy face__|letteral: happiness symbol, ":)" and its related forms expressing happiness|| ||zo'obu|BY*|__smiley face__|letteral: humor symbol, ";)" and its related forms expressing humor|| Once again, it should be noted that the current definitions of .uibu and zo'obu are a bit redundant, in that they have "(letteral)" at the end. The definition for .uibu is a bit short compared to zo'obu, so I've lengthened it. I've never seen :-) as a humor symbol, and in fact, it more resembles .uibu than zo'obu. I don't think I'm the only one. Generally, I see ;) (a wink) as a "I'm just joking" smiley and I suggest that the smiley in the definition be changed to this. These are the most sorely in need of extra keywords. ''joibu'' should have "__ampersand symbol__" and "__and character__" added. ''.uibu'' could use "__:)__" as a keyword. Similarly, ''zo'obu'' should have "__;)__". !!Examples Use as prosumti: ''.i la bancus. cu mupli zbasu .i by cu certu mupli zbasu'' Use to dictate spelling of a word: ''.i la'e lu by .abu ny cy .ubu sy li'u cu mintu la bancus.'' Use as variables in mekso: ''.i fy du li cire su'i vei cy pi'i so fi'u mu ve'o'' !!Overall Changes This proposal entails the following changes: * Change keyword for ''slaka bu'' to "__comma symbol__". * Remove "__(letteral)__" from definitions for ''.uibu'' and ''zo'obu''. * Add "__period symbol__" to definition for ''denpa bu''. * Change "__:-)__" in the definition for ''zo'o bu'' to "__;)__". * Add "__ampersand symbol__" as a keyword for ''joibu''. * Add "__and character__" as a keyword for ''joibu''. * Add "__:)__" as a keyword for ''.uibu''. * Add "__;)__" as a keyword for ''zo'obu''. * Change definition for ''.uibu'' to "__letteral: happiness symbol, ":)" and its related forms expressing happiness__" !!Impact It is my opinion that these changes are minor, and will not impact or invalidate usage, current or past.
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