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I'm wondering about this example from la nicte cadzu:

.u'e sai le risna be sy pa roi da'ergau

As it stands, "sy pa" runs together as a lerfu string and makes the
whole thing ungrammatical. To fix it, even a "bu" won't do (still a
lerfu string), you have to use a "ku". (This is with my implementation
of the official PEG parser.) Does all this sound right?

Chris Capel
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On Jun 1, 2008, at 11:08 PM, Chris Capel wrote:
> I'm wondering about this example from la nicte cadzu:
>
> .u'e sai le risna be sy pa roi da'ergau
>
> As it stands, "sy pa" runs together as a lerfu string and makes the
> whole thing ungrammatical. To fix it, even a "bu" won't do (still a
> lerfu string), you have to use a "ku". (This is with my implementation
> of the official PEG parser.) Does all this sound right?

I think "ku" only works because it terminates "le risna be sy"; to
terminate just the "sy" itself, you have to use "boi".

mu'omi'e la'o gy. Minimiscience .gy.


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On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Minimiscience <minimiscience@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 1, 2008, at 11:08 PM, Chris Capel wrote:
>>
>> I'm wondering about this example from la nicte cadzu:
>>
>> .u'e sai le risna be sy pa roi da'ergau
>>
>> As it stands, "sy pa" runs together as a lerfu string and makes the
>> whole thing ungrammatical. To fix it, even a "bu" won't do (still a
>> lerfu string), you have to use a "ku". (This is with my implementation
>> of the official PEG parser.) Does all this sound right?
>
> I think "ku" only works because it terminates "le risna be sy"; to terminate
> just the "sy" itself, you have to use "boi".

Ahh, that's right. I was thinking "bu" was "boi", but no, it's just
bu. But the "bu" *is* required in this case?

Chris Capel
--
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like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?"
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On Jun 1, 2008, at 11:31 PM, Chris Capel wrote:
> Ahh, that's right. I was thinking "bu" was "boi", but no, it's just
> bu. But the "bu" *is* required in this case?

Assuming you actually mean "boi", yes, it is required unless you use
another workaround like terminating "le risna ..." or reordering the
places.

mu'omi'e la'o gy. Minimiscience .gy.


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On Sunday 01 June 2008 23:31, Chris Capel wrote:
> Ahh, that's right. I was thinking "bu" was "boi", but no, it's just
> bu. But the "bu" *is* required in this case?

No. "bu" after a letter turns it into another, presumably related,
letter: "kybu" is Q, "vybu" is W, "abubu" is (I think) @.

I ran into the same problem in Alice. "abu za'ure'u" had to be changed
to "abuboi za'ure'u".

Pierre


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